Hey everybody, it’s Nilay. We’re off today for the holiday, and we’ll be back this Thursday with new episodes. In the meantime, we wanted to revisit a conversation from earlier this year I had with investigative journalist and New Yorker contributor Ronan Farrow, all about the in-depth feature on OpenAI CEO Sam Altman he co-authored with Andrew Marantz.
The conversation holds up remarkably well, and I think it tells us a lot about the current moment, as calls for meaningful federal AI oversight have ground to a halt yet again. Enjoy.&nbsp;

Links:&nbsp;
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 <li>Sam Altman May Control Our Future—Can He Be Trusted? | <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/04/13/sam-altman-may-control-our-future-can-he-be-trusted">The New Yorker</a>
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 <li>Ronan Farrow on Sam Altman’s ‘unconstrained’ relationship with the truth | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/podcast/911753/sam-altman-openai-ronan-farrow-new-yorker-feature-trust-liar-ai-industry">Decoder</a>
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 <li>Does AI need an antitrust exemption so it doesn’t kill everyone? | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/podcast/997382/openai-microsoft-anthropic-elon-musk-cartel-ai-competition">Decoder</a>
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 <li>Inside the suddenly explosive world of AI safety | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/996563/ai-safety-research-metr-redwood-openai-anthropic">The Verge</a>
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 <li>Here’s what AI leaders are saying about Trump’s new safety plan | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1002636/ai-execs-trump-self-policing-deal-comments">The Verge</a>
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