Australia's 29th Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull joins former Canadian Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland to deliver a candid appraisal of the shifting sands of global politics, from Donald Trump to AUKUS to rising right wing populism in liberal democracies.This conversation was recorded at the <a href="https://www.hks.harvard.edu/events/conversation-malcolm-turnbull-29th-prime-minister-australia">Harvard Kennedy School</a> at Harvard University on 16 April 2026.Speakers:<a href="https://www.malcolmturnbull.com.au/">Malcom Turnbull</a>Australian Prime Minister, 2015 to 2018President of the International Hydropower Association<a href="https://iop.harvard.edu/fellows/chrystia-freeland">Chrystia Freeland</a> (host)Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School, Harvard UniversityEconomic advisor to the President of UkraineFormer Canadian deputy prime minister and finance minister 2019 to 2024Author, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/305569/plutocrats-by-chrystia-freeland/">Plutocrats: The Rise of the New Global Super Rich and the Fall of Everyone Else</a>, and <a href="https://www.hachette.com.au/chrystia-freeland/sale-of-the-century-the-inside-story-of-the-second-russian-revolution">Sale of the Century: Russia's Wild Ride from Communism to Capitalism</a>

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