This episode is all about companies in flux. First, we chat with The Verge's Alex Heath about all things Meta — whether the company is still serious about the metaverse, why its AI plans seem to be going so well, what "OG Facebook" really means, and what headsets to expect this year. After that, The Verge's Chris Welch takes us through the last year at Sonos, from the disastrous app launch to the pretty good headphones that were totally derailed by the disastrous app launch. Can the company get it together in order to launch its next big swing, a set-top box codenamed Pinewood? Finally, we answer a question on the Vergecast Hotline all about business cards. Because, yes, it's 2025, but sometimes you still need a place to put a business card.Further reading:<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/command-line-newsletter/603754/mark-zuckerberg-tells-employees-to-buckle-up-in-leaked-all-hands-meeting">Mark Zuckerberg tells Meta employees to ‘buckle up’ in internal meeting</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/605764/meta-metaverse-horizon-worlds-reality-labs-mixed-reality-expiration-date">Meta says this is the make or break year for the metaverse</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/meta/603674/meta-ray-ban-smart-glasses-sales">Meta’s Ray-Bans smart glasses sold more than 1 million units last year</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/28/23619730/meta-vr-oculus-ar-glasses-smartwatch-plans">Meta’s AR / VR hardware roadmap through 2027</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/608933/meta-war-with-leakers-bosworth">Meta CTO says the company is working to ‘catch’ leakers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/602850/zuckerberg-og-facebook-back-meta-earnings">Zuck wants to bring the “OG Facebook” back.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/13/24342282/sonos-app-redesign-controversy-full-story">The Sonos app fiasco: how a great audio brand nearly ruined its reputation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/13/24342179/sonos-ceo-patrick-spence-resignation-reason-app">Sonos CEO Patrick Spence steps down after disastrous app launch</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/13/24342354/sonos-interim-ceo-tom-conrad-employee-letter">Sonos’ interim CEO hits all the right notes in first letter to employees</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/24315195/sonos-arc-ultra-soundbar-review-dolby-atmos-more-bass">Sonos Arc Ultra review: don’t call it a comeback (yet)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/24169086/sonos-ace-headphones-review">Sonos Ace review: was it worth it? | The Verge</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/sonos/606025/sonos-pinewood-video-player-features">After a bruising year, Sonos readies its next big thing: a streaming box</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/acrobat/mobile/scanner-app.html">Adobe Scan</a></li>
</ul>Email us at <a href="mailto:vergecast@theverge.com">vergecast@theverge.com</a> or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

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