Ian chats with the great John Darnielle about the latest Mountain Goats record Through This Fire Across From Peter Balkan, cracking the concept behind the album, collaborating with members of both the Hamilton cast and The Replacements, his upcoming lyrics book, de-centering "John Darnielle" from his work, giving himself permission to look back, becoming an accidental TikTok phenomenon, writing bridges, underrated Bob Dylan records, and much more.

<a href="https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/album/through-this-fire-across-from-peter-balkan">"THROUGH THIS FIRE ACROSS FROM PETER BALKAN" OUT THIS FRIDAY</a>
<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/this-year-365-songs-annotated-a-book-of-days-john-darnielle/5bb7a2b01affd4e3?ean=9780374606497&next=t&next=t&affiliate=3214">"THIS YEAR" OUT DECEMBER 2nd</a>

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