This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit <a href="https://wisdomofcrowds.live?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_7">wisdomofcrowds.live</a> Last week, Wisdom of Crowds philosopher-in-residence <a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/profile/2342842-samuel-kimbriel">Samuel Kimbriel</a> wrote an <a target="_blank" href="https://wisdomofcrowds.live/p/what-christianity-isnt?utm_campaign=post&#38;utm_medium=web">essay</a> about the political use of Christianity within MAGA, contrasting the sincerity of Erika Kirk’s piety with the propagandistic use of the Lord’s Prayer in a recent military recruitment video. <a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/profile/3785359-shadi-hamid">Shadi Hamid</a> reflected on Samuel’s piece and more, writing a <a target="_blank" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/09/29/charlie-kirk-christianity-conservatives-trump/">column</a><a target="_blank" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/09/29/charlie-kirk-christianity-conservatives-trump/"> </a>about it for the Washington Post. Today, we bring both men together to discuss the central questions of both articles: do Christianity and politics mix?<a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/profile/2923823-damir-marusic">Damir Marusic</a> adds his own take on the debate, trying to dissuade both Samuel and Shadi from thinking that there is a “true” Christianity that can be saved from the corrupting influence of political power. Shadi says that he does not care whether there is a true version of Christianity: what he wants is a healthy, forgiveness-centered version of Christianity to triumph politically, that is what is good for America. Meanwhile, Samuel talks about the inherent tension between living a radical faith while also being politically successful.In our bonus section for paid subscribers, Shadi discusses the Islamic idea of politics as a “site of imperfection”; Samuel explains why he is “especially attracted to acts that happen under conditions of scarcity”; Damir explains why he would not want any of his Christian friends to become powerful politicians; the three discuss the difference between the politics of conviction and the politics of responsibility; and more!Reading and Watching:* Shadi, “Two Versions of Christianity Battle for America’s Soul” (<a target="_blank" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/09/29/charlie-kirk-christianity-conservatives-trump/">Washington Post</a>).* Sam, “What Christianity Isn’t” (<a target="_blank" href="https://wisdomofcrowds.live/p/what-christianity-isnt?utm_campaign=post&#38;utm_medium=web">WoC</a>).* Military recruitment video w/Our Father (<a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/SecWar/status/1969530822127407323">X</a>).* Erika Kirk speech at Charlie Kirk memorial (<a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/JJyUV3t5310?si=4Vy2bgYwnWwMIbqF">YouTube</a>).* Matthew Rose, A World After Liberalism: Philosophers of the Radical Right (<a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/World-After-Liberalism-Philosophers-Radical/dp/B097Z2BHH5/ref=sr_1_1?crid=374IE7V9LICRB&#38;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.6055qeXWKR8vt09vVd6KcQ.Iw0uoMusBi4DX0ThThUPKMbi7zVoEdHdkoK5zZmx7Sg&#38;dib_tag=se&#38;keywords=Matthew+Rose+liberalism&#38;qid=1759587344&#38;sprefix=matthew+rose+liberalism%2Caps%2C68&#38;sr=8-1">Amazon</a>).* Max Weber, “Politics As A Vocation” (<a target="_blank" href="https://dn790009.ca.archive.org/0/items/weber_max_1864_1920_politics_as_a_vocation/weber_max_1864_1920_politics_as_a_vocation.pdf">Internet Archive</a>).* Ezra Klein interviews Ta Nehisi Coates (<a target="_blank" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/28/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-ta-nehisi-coates.html">New York Times</a>).Free preview video:Full video for paid subscribers below:

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