With the podcast half-way through its tenth year it is a privilege to welcome back a former contributor to the show - read his piece on Clueless for <a href='https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/film/2019/01/why-we-need-clueless-cher-horowitz-now-more-ever-comedy-genius-bfi'>The New Statesman</a> that coincided with his previous appearance on the show - and long-time champion of The Cinematologists, Ryan Gilbey.
Ryan's return is to promote and discuss his new book, the astoundingly good, <a href='https://www.faber.co.uk/product/9780571381524-it-used-to-be-witches/?srsltid=AfmBOopRG5SV66HwnnwsUlcLNw6EKRRMlkRZDNwydhU2Y0WK4C9YmUFV'>It Used to be Witches: Under the Spell of Queer Cinema,</a> published this month (June 2025) by Faber.
Around the release date, I (Neil) sat down in Cinema 1 at the Barbican in London to discuss the book, the form(s) of Queer Cinema, Ryan's journey with his sexuality and how cinema is entwined and implicated, being a film obsessive, and the comfort of lists. It was a profound privilege to sit with an old friend to talk about his amazing work and this art form that we both love so much. 
Around this conversation, Dario and I discuss Queer representation and the cinema as a transgressive space, ownership and authorship of texts, and the way that the cinema space affects not only the viewing of a film but in this case, the experience of talking about film. Finally, we talk about the film End of the Century (Castro, 2019, Argentina) - I mistakenly describe it as a Spanish film in the episode, apologies - the film that accompanied my visit to the Barbican to see Ryan, and also the film that magically ends his transcendent and moving book.
This episode of The Cinematologists is dedicated to Barney Gilbey.
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