Pastor and author Mark Batterson joins me to talk about his new book Gradually, Then Suddenly, a powerful invitation to dream God-sized dreams, start small, and stay faithful long enough to see legacy take root. We explore what it means to move from imagination to action, how to live with long vision and long obedience, and why true success often looks like quiet persistence over time. Mark shares stories of transformation from Washington, D.C., turning a crack house into a coffeehouse, a dream into a citywide ministry, and faith into a generational story. This conversation reminds us that what looks like slow progress may actually be sacred preparation. Join us for an inspiring look at how to live, lead, and love with purpose over the long haul.Mark Batterson is the New York Times bestselling author of two dozen adult and children’s books including Win the Day, Chase the Lion and A Million Little Miracles. His newest book is <a href='https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/804950/gradually-then-suddenly-by-mark-batterson/'>Gradually Then Suddenly, How to Dream Bigger, Decide Better, and Leave a Lasting Legacy</a> (Multnomah; on sale 11/4/25).  He’s also the lead pastor of National Community Church in Washington, D.C. One church with multiple campuses, NCC owns and operates Ebenezers Coffeehouse, the DC Dream Center and the Capital Turnaround—a 100,000-square-foot city block that includes an event venue and child development center. Mark holds a doctor of ministry degree from Regent University. He and his wife, Lora, reside on Capitol Hill. For more information, visit <a href='http://www.markbatterson.com/'>markbatterson.com</a> and <a href='https://twitter.com/markbatterson'>https://twitter.com/markbatterson</a> & <a href='https://twitter.com/markbatterson'>Instagram.com/markbatterson</a> Mark's Book:<a href='https://amzn.to/43exmSd'>Gradually, Then Suddenly</a>Mark's Recommendation:<a href='https://amzn.to/3XbRi4E'>The River of Doubt</a>Connect with Joshua: jjohnson@shiftingculturepodcast.com Go to <a href='https://www.shiftingculturepodcast.com'>www.shiftingculturepodcast.com</a> to interact and donate. Every donation helps to produce more podcasts for you to enjoy. Follow on <a href='https://www.facebook.com/shiftingculturepodcast'>Facebook</a>, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/shiftingculturepodcast/'>Instagram</a>, <a href='https://twitter.com/shiftingcultur2'>Twitter</a>, <a href='https://www.threads.net/@shiftingculturepodcast'>Threads</a>, <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/shiftingculture.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a> or <a href='https://www.youtube.com/@shiftingculturepodcast'>YouTube</a> Consider Giving to the podcast and to the ministry that my wife and I do around the world. Just click on the support the show link below <a href="https://www.shiftingculturepodcast.com/donate">Contact me to advertise</a>: jjohnson@shiftingculturepodcast.com <a rel="payment" href="https://give.allnations.us/donate/team-members-page?projectCodePreselect=Johnson101">Support the show</a>

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