The New Pornographers have never been easy to pin down. Since forming in Vancouver in the late &rsquo;90s, the band became one of the defining acts of the Canadian indie rock explosion. They&rsquo;re part of a scene that also produced Neko Case, Dan Bejar, and a generation of artists who seemed to operate entirely outside the commercial mainstream. Co-founders Carl Newman and Kathryn Calder have spent more than two decades making records that sound like they arrived fully formed: densely layered, relentlessly melodic, and somehow both euphoric and melancholy at the same time.Their latest album, The Former Site Of,&nbsp; draws on a different kind of raw material. Part of it came from a friend&rsquo;s terminal illness and the weight of watching someone you love reckon with time running out. Part of it came from something more unexpected: the last remaining payphone in New York City, which became a kind of anchor image for the record, a physical object standing in for everything we hold onto after it stops being useful.On today&rsquo;s episode, Bruce Headlam sits down with Carl Newman and Kathryn Calder to talk about where their new album came from, what it&rsquo;s like to make something beautiful out of grief, and how the Canadian music scene that shaped them still runs through everything they do.See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.

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