Jordan Klepper dives into the confidence boost from a former U.S. president that supposedly inspired Trump to consider “taking Cuba,” counterterrorism official Joe Kent resigning over the war in Iran, and MAGA turning on each other with “micropenis” allegations. Plus, Troy Iwata runs his gaydar on Iran's new supreme leader to find out if he’s queerbaiting Americans.
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NYT’s Bestselling author, George Saunders sits down with Jordan Klepper to discuss his latest novel, “Vigil.” They discuss how he tapped into the mindset of a character who is forced to rationalize their horrible decisions, how accountability can be a form of grace, and  Saunders even credits the people of Minneapolis in demonstrating this in the way they peacefully yet firmly protested ICE’s actions, and his source of light amidst the cruelty and chaos in the world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

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