Like so many others, we’re still reeling from the killing of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis. To open the show, we talk with Adi Robertson about how videos of the incident moved around social platforms, how even well-intentioned people got confused by AI imagery, and what we’ve learned about the state of misinformation. Then Adi explains the new TikTok, which is both the same and very different from the old TikTok. The newly US-centric version of the app has had some switching pains so far, and the changes may only be just beginning. After that, it’s time for a hard pivot, as Vulture’s Nick Quah joins the show to talk about Netflix’s entry into podcasts — and whether what Netflix is doing can even be called “podcasts” anymore. Finally, David answers an old Vergecast Hotline question that got him thinking about all the ways we hold our phones to make calls, and which one is the best. 

Further reading:
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/867455/dhs-ice-border-patrol-minneapolis-alex-pretti">It doesn’t matter if Alex Pretti had a gun</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/867410/minneapolis-ice-protest-alex-pretti-killing">The day of the second killing</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/867625/tiktok-down-weekend-broke-fyp-video-uploads-review">TikTok USA is broken</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/netflix-youtube-podcast-wars-2026.html">Everything (Including Netflix) Will Become YouTube This Year</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/entertainment/842457/podcast-show-name-change">It’s finally time to retire the word ‘podcast’</a></li>
</ul>
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