After more than five years of backing and forthing, secret meetings and loud screeds, it appears the fate of TikTok in the US has finally been decided. Maybe. There are still a lot of unknowns, but we're pretty sure we know the bones of the deal — and we know which of President Trump's allies stand to benefit the most. Before we get to all that, though, David and Jake run through some big news in future gadgets, including the long-awaited-and-maybe-happening combination of Android and ChromeOS and the possibilities for a touchscreen MacBook. Then, The Verge's Liz Lopatto joins to talk TikTok. And Trump. Then, in the lightning round, the three hosts talk through Jimmy Kimmel's return, Nvidia's money problems, a surprising AmEx perk, and much more.

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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/784381/qualcomm-ceo-seen-googles-android-pc-merger-incredible">Google’s Android for PC: ‘I’ve seen it, it is incredible’ </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/google/707041/google-chromeos-android-os-merger-questions-phones-chromebooks-laptops-tablets">Our biggest questions about ChromeOS and Android merging</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/782366/foldable-details-iphone-air-ifixit-teardown">The foldable iPhone might look like two iPhone Airs stuck together </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/782302/touchscreen-oled-macbook-rumors">The touchscreen MacBook rumors are never ending </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/781854/openai-chatgpt-hardware-rumors-smart-speaker-glasses-pin">OpenAI might also be developing AI glasses, a voice recorder, and a pin </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/782218/trump-claims-the-us-is-about-to-get-a-tremendous-fee-for-taking-tiktok-out-of-china">Trump claims the US is about to get a tremendous fee for taking TikTok out of China</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/640745/tiktok-deal-trump-us-china-bytedance">Trump signs executive order approving TikTok deal</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/782261/details-of-the-tiktok-deal-have-been-worked-out">Some details of the TikTok deal have been worked out.</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/what-trump-wants-from-a-tiktok-deal-with-china">What Trump Wants from a TikTok Deal with China</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/22/us/politics/tiktok-deal-algorithm-trump.html">American Investors Will License and Oversee TikTok’s U.S. Version, White House Says</a></li>
 <li> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/23/technology/larry-ellison-oracle-tiktok.html?partner=slack&smid=sl-share">TikTok Deal Could Make Oracle Founder Larry Ellison a New Kind of Media Mogul</a>
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 <li> <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/784480/anker-soundcore-nebula-x1-pro-party-speaker-surround-kickstarter">Anker’s party speaker projector hits Kickstarter with a sizable discount. </a>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/782288/montblanc-is-getting-into-the-digital-notepad-game">Montblanc is getting into the digital notepad game </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/782393/apple-iphone-17-series-easily-scratched-anodized">Apple’s iPhone 17 Pro can be easily scratched </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/785639/american-express-platinum-credit-card-perks-ios-app-theme">It costs $895 per year to get American Express’ premium app theme</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/782624/nvidia-is-partnering-up-with-openai-to-offer-compute-and-cash">Nvidia is partnering up with OpenAI to offer compute and cash </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/784355/jimmy-kimmel-return-brendan-carr-trump">Kimmel returns to television to mock FCC Chair Brendan Carr </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/783428/sinclair-wont-air-kimmel">Sinclair won’t air Kimmel. </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115256938634035559">Trump on Truth Social</a></li>
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