There’s a new season of The Closer coming soon — but before it does, we have a special episode to share from our friends over at The Negotiators podcast.

Last season, we talked to Jeffrey Kessler, the lawyer who represented the US Women's National Team in their equal pay lawsuit against the US Soccer Federation. He said the main obstacle was bad leadership. Until it changed.

Today, Cindy Parlow Cohn is president of the federation. After picking up the leadership, she worked with Kessler in grueling negotiations to make gender parity a reality for the women's and men's national teams.

She spoke with our friends at The Negotiators, which is a podcast collaboration between Doha debates and Foreign Policy. We thought you might enjoy hearing Cohn's perspective on all of this.

For more episodes, search for The Negotiators wherever you listen to podcasts.

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