In this episode, William Green talks with Matthew McLennan, who oversees about $130 billion at First Eagle Investments. Matt is head of the firm’s Global Value team & a portfolio manager of its Global Value, Global Equity, International Value, International Equity & US Value strategies. Here, he explores how to build resilient wealth by patiently holding a “non-uniform” portfolio of scarce assets that should endure & prosper even in difficult conditions. This episode provides a time-tested survival strategy for investors looking to navigate this period of extreme uncertainty.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00:00 - Intro00:02:14 - Why Matthew McLennan thinks investors should prepare for turmoil.00:17:43 - How to construct a resilient portfolio by thinking like a gardener.00:19:38 - Why Matt loves businesses with scarce assets in mundane industries.00:23:02 - Why survival is the key to investment success.00:23:33 - How cash & gold provide a ballast in the event of unexpected storms.00:26:28 - Why he’s wary of a highly concentrated investment strategy.00:51:07 - How patience has become a powerful edge in a hyperactive world.00:57:17 - How to build long-term success by focusing on process, not rewards.01:05:28 - How to think better by harnessing our right-brain capabilities.01:23:05 - Why “what’s hot today” is likely to produce terrible investment returns.01:25:10 - How studying wine & playing backgammon help him as an investor.01:29:04 - Why he favors a team-based approach, instead of being a lone wolf.

Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.

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 <li>Thucydides’ book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/History-Peloponnesian-War-Thucydides/dp/0140440399?crid=22FFO2VLW90ZQ&keywords=thucydides+history+of+the+peloponnesian+war&qid=1663616716&s=books&sprefix=Thucy%2Cstripbooks%2C84&sr=1-1&linkCode=ll2&tag=tipnetwork-20&linkId=72dc3242589f6d53f86f8718ae905785&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl">History of the Peloponnesian War</a>.
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 <li>Daniel Yergin’s book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Prize-Daniel-Yergin/dp/1847376460?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5Q8qVN3tVkU2c184A5EhdS_IhjJ5p3nuKYiBWXcftSER0nytrJ81xefSK_ART9Vd-fyGsOTNYBqz2L6wkwTv6A4PtRqCJ3aDbTiV3h52wI1Pu07erFMHe4zvzONxFjEkM2OBCQjb6m-Pv2HU3rLmQb6Hpc5CUwBdXzPTfiS-zHzXoGHWppKQ8LkFAj6aHAJEedYFF631ibo7L_Gq-xuYUPojBJGMIy2VS-EsDtcPWOs.aqFjcCnqRo1HVKJHa38hL8_p3fOjiijHAS7oI61jj84&qid=1775417622&sr=8-1&linkCode=ll2&tag=tipnetwork-20&linkId=af960084589437cb1c9d59694df55fa0&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl">The Prize</a>.</li>
 <li>John Cochrane’s book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fiscal-Theory-Price-Level/dp/0691242240?crid=EL7SLMSJNS3Q&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.rk8H7jsVhslcuOmFH3tlKys0LsY8fpLZ-CUKyt6ew9JiEzpwnt3qCUVuIdALs_bCUH0o-x-WN6jEQHVwjV7cArRMpZFEZP-oc0B7-dfnfEfXfq5SRfGmETDybH2MrSuA8p4NOLhNOHE7RS9f39dobnmCoREYsV472fwuoNIcWD3WU1nEkNxBclox_r0KnzQOXwUPcziEGS1JIokiMI9OatfPGoHE7EDLjDz_N1g21PM.P4yynY5QkLHXOiXowtjYvBS3GT4lywdx6Su7ODr663o&dib_tag=se&keywords=john+cochrane&qid=1775417668&s=audible&sprefix=john+cochrane%2Caudible%2C139&sr=1-1-catcorr&linkCode=ll2&tag=tipnetwork-20&linkId=863432056646ac0099c6db9969d0b38e&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl">The Fiscal Theory of the Price Level</a>.</li>
 <li>Peter Matthiessen’s book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Snow-Leopard-Penguin-Classics/dp/0143105515?crid=2NP5ZZC7T8HBR&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.vRrop08bgh88XH3fcO0s0ZYroVKIHT-4PpkzFLS41h1721vQowHTbwJ9aLxXVOxLz2hRHDK7IKqLpw0IHyHtDd0-K-1uW9BFoqRPaB2r_xPBE4suMe_MN82a7oBCwHCHwaca5dNrGq-aZ0XUaL23HdLF8QH2a0J8PsqaWC3SUf3_fRSZJmeCgRfVsbLKrGLfoHQbDCOx5BzxTxzfyptlFPh62ArZyoX3Jt11CinXyC4.HypteVKvO5_njnVaYakjxPQrJc7Z3DWtVRE24v9LnHE&dib_tag=se&keywords=snow+leopard+book&qid=1775417727&sprefix=snow+leopard+book%2Caps%2C200&sr=8-1&linkCode=ll2&tag=tipnetwork-20&linkId=570017bf6c08d5d8171e871fa1892fd8&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl">The Snow Leopard</a>.</li>
 <li>Iain McGilchrist’s book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Matter-Things-Brains-Delusions-Unmaking/dp/1914568257?crid=3AXKLAU2FMJLS&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.nLmGxDcw4_wZ3_n28bhMh7a8dYQYBcCAH7DrV3sPMyVlSQnjsi5-S68TPUVkpEQMrLNeK-qHiCbxi3ISz4iOWksQCuUZHM584Hx_LdrbCxGmE5rnMNB-GdwsRbRgU_vjxGZV_csoYb5ixaQ72Td2BjN_Iu8kieUHpsJEZyN9ZU3WXcnGEKKuXPmL4b4NIvNlZPqLbSfRj0O7NNQkhqJwMveLDqsadnk39rJXz-XW6a8.9KwSNsufY3v62eHdy4tcYxOjJtnRPfW4IqDaeRLpux8&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+matter+with+things+iain+mcgilchrist&qid=1775417764&sprefix=the+matter+%2Caps%2C210&sr=8-1&linkCode=ll2&tag=tipnetwork-20&linkId=00d258255c22d8bb7990121a1bd3491d&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl">The Matter with Things</a>.</li>
 <li>David Galenson’s book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Old-Masters-Young-Geniuses-Creativity/dp/0691133808?crid=1VA08XZT9NEOQ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.RxLR1NWYHlUbWwPjA099sMc58of5YSJP5sus8ZhC7vP5nJGVfN-tE_EO3ipZpI5U3PujAeBb_G2Fwg3i1AibxsH9hL1b1EaQaodIE2O_5yj34XYPWiwXWH34OL5731t7llPBcSX6folYYM4eODkh_oirUKhNaa8puRJd7rOsQxzXm-DwOOiXS9pQMtIHVnYMnOXNmzhmGz2fcyXFDkNY-6PGgIOacssYFnVTqh4X1Tc.DqzQvZfpRRdjeS1cNBEGCc6KEy_H9CGwD01FOsoypyc&dib_tag=se&keywords=old+masters+and+young+geniuses&qid=1775417804&sprefix=young+geniu%2Caps%2C182&sr=8-1&linkCode=ll2&tag=tipnetwork-20&linkId=f172441efbef14ed8b7838b6a9f72c45&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl">Old Masters and Young Geniuses</a>.</li>
 <li>Charles de Montesquieu’s book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Montesquieu-Cambridge-History-Political-Thought/dp/0521369746?crid=1XF93M7UAKRUL&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9._rgtO0fAjTBr2Jy8uYyJimJBA07R0huIrbI5Wz7rhoUrF8EHduecLJA5Jy6Vl6jysT6Gnp31ojJP0aTDfQjSJnyojU0T51CBaZaTA-qSMdj20KTmhS0U7fPBCOAB-K4RuCiWBNqOtd6QG6zdzi9DqQ85z8XlTL9bnf2semXoq3aRrTwwetveKigY6wPWFX7t3hq9smMfWSE-bNdiGt1uI-HiCYjybtBKHXRgmyZqUOE.lybg_GcPzc2Hf0XXibOCqdAVVWA-HjxnC6eqBci8Kbg&dib_tag=se&keywords=montesquieu+the+spirit+of+the+laws&qid=1775417912&sprefix=montesqu%2Caps%2C200&sr=8-1&linkCode=ll2&tag=tipnetwork-20&linkId=c9e586487be64ca7770f1c68c387e61e&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl">The Spirit of the Laws</a>.</li>
 <li>Stephen Wolfram’s book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/New-Kind-Science-Stephen-Wolfram/dp/1579550258?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.riTCeJAa8nMEsmySMGZuq2Q_4waPoKdyh9dROAPtYymKJaALbedrWAymhNsP37mJsSbFZ1vKiEqcL3Tm1vkiO8STbOZT4i7ZwCAJ2Q0UTMt0CfVN_Flj-GFAIQHWjujlEO8ToyrEvIIXpIdoXmsekl79tlP_z37dQFpd7lGKbq8cLlM-X164vg90p6qcF_zgHFSuDZDrWJz46moWxdC8iUNUiK4mAOAEbzzGr2PJqUU.yDvpPUw_szHSlk1rXTkY-gv9ZUcsX_Pl6Ee48l6sy8o&qid=1775417958&sr=8-2&linkCode=ll2&tag=tipnetwork-20&linkId=5b0382fadeccf96bb76f01deb4637598&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl">A New Kind of Science</a>.</li>
 <li>Winston Churchill’s book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Early-Life-1874-1904-Winston-Churchill/dp/0684823454?crid=3F93P6FP3E7VE&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4Jx7CKHcGWVOgtZ9byaRFXA61S0fWJme4xhpniwjutTHzDrJpHCY7Vh1w1qZmJRq5OB9RsLHAF64O3dlzpIohWM9AyDZg5Esku6TG768hipAlR0nJ9jAO82zLHUhQl26NujfbyRtwmevSEral7XsrXRYbrrRsjRygKjE5q0ZBcjP2SuLvz8mbYLWPRznBJOgqdlWprO5wFWkreMAT4TlqI9lAhRQYa4x0ZpYPkmVhbY.QQAdvnNNj-BWG9WM1f06SvrBDgh6nb51ZAunBDW_vBI&dib_tag=se&keywords=my+early+life+by+winston+churchill&qid=1775418007&sprefix=churchill+my+earl%2Caps%2C206&sr=8-1&linkCode=ll2&tag=tipnetwork-20&linkId=c6937ce3d120fa652b604df4cf83c970&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl">My Early Life</a>.</li>
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