It's developer conference season, and one of the themes so far has been big swings at AI apps. We've seen Gemini Spark, Microsoft Scout, and so many other attempts to figure out what people, and companies, actually want their AI to do. Nilay and David discuss their experiences with the apps, before turning to Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang's vision for the AI-filled laptop of the future. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for the Hype Desk, Brendan Carr is a Dummy, a deeply dumb Meta hack, and the future of a favorite VR game.

Further reading:
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/941388/gemini-spark-ai-agent-trip-planning">⁠Testing Google’s Gemini Spark AI agent: it’s incredible, and creepy ⁠</a></li>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/941138/google-gemini-spark-ai-agent-hands-on">⁠Gemini’s new AI agent is about as good as Google’s demo ⁠</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/939713/microsoft-scout-assistant-openclaw">⁠Microsoft Scout is a new AI personal assistant built on OpenClaw ⁠</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/941830/microsoft-project-solara-os-ai-agent-gadgets">⁠Microsoft’s Project Solara is an OS for AI agent gadgets ⁠</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/942629/as-ai-gets-better-it-reveals-an-empty-promise">⁠As AI gets better, it reveals an empty promise ⁠</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/942909/let-us-filter-ai-slop-google-youtube-meta-instagram-tiktok">⁠Let us filter AI slop, you cowards⁠</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/942242/microsoft-build-ai-agents-openai-competition">⁠Microsoft and OpenAI broke up — now they’re ready to fight ⁠</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/940794/first-nvidia-rtx-spark-laptops-roundup-computex-2026">⁠These are the first Nvidia RTX Spark laptops ⁠</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/940584/microsoft-surface-laptop-ultra-nvidia-rtx-spark-pictures">⁠This is the Microsoft Surface Laptop Ultra with Nvidia RTX Spark ⁠</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li>
<a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/941600/microsoft-surface-laptop-ultra-dev-box-hands-on">⁠A first look at Microsoft’s Surface Laptop Ultra and Surface Dev Box⁠</a><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/941600/microsoft-surface-laptop-ultra-dev-box-hands-on">⁠ ⁠</a>
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</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/942588/nvidia-rtx-spark-n2x-n3x-r2-d2-star-trek-star-wars-plan">⁠Nvidia is already planning N2X and N3X chips — the goal is the Star Trek computer ⁠</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/941215/windows-laptops-nvidia-rtx-spark-apple-m1-arm-price-ram">⁠This could be Windows’ M1 moment — but expect it to cost a ton ⁠</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/940844/computex-2026">⁠Computex 2026: All the news and announcements ⁠</a></li>
</ul>
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 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/941179/meta-instagram-ai-support-chatbot-exploit-hacked">⁠Meta’s own AI was exploited to hijack Instagram accounts⁠</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/940572/apples-strategy-smart-glasses-smart-watches">⁠Apple’s strategy for smart glasses is the same as for smart watches ⁠</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/942689/it-sure-seems-like-the-vision-pro-isnt-getting-upgraded-for-a-while-if-ever">⁠It sure seems like the Vision Pro isn’t getting upgraded for a while — if ever.⁠</a></li>
</ul>

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(Timestamps are approximate.)

00:01:00 Intro
00:03:00 New Verge Merch Drop
00:09:00 Gemini Spark Test Drive
00:13:00 Privacy Tradeoffs Debate
00:21:00 Software Brain Pushback
00:36:00 Jensen Huang Computer Future
00:39:00 Microsoft Build Reality Check
00:41:00 Nvidia Spark Recall
00:42:00 Microsoft Badge Agents
00:54:00 Escaping Apple Tax
00:57:00 Wearables Walled Gardens
01:05:00 Hype Desk
01:06:00 Bond Game Streaming
01:09:00 Summer Games Fest
01:11:00 State of Play Highlights
01:11:00 God of War
01:14:00 Wolverine Gore Talk
01:15:00 Widows Bay
01:17:00 Lightning Round
01:17:00 Brendan Carr is a Dummy
01:26:00 Apple Glasses Rumors
01:36:00 Privacy Backlash Risk
01:38:00 Meta AI Hack Fiasco
01:43:00 Supernatural Returns
01:47:00 Wrap and Next Week Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

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