In this episode, we announce the departure of the most awesome of awesomeness co-host, Shane Gibson, and introduce Donna Spencer as the new chief joke cracking co-host.

Donna describes her experience as a product designer and user experience researcher. 

Shane reflects on what he's learned about agile, product development and leadership from over a hundred interviews with international experts. 

Murray's discusses his ongoing commitment to delivering deep, pragmatic, and valuable insights on agile product development and leadership while avoiding the shallow, rambling and self promotional content you often get at conferences and other podcasts.






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