Ryan sits down with Galen Wolfe-Pauly, CEO of Tlon, to chat about calm computing and how humans can take back ownership of their data and digital world. They discuss the early internet’s evolution from individual creativity into today’s internet that turns users into products, Galen’s takeaways from building a new network architecture that prioritizes user control, and why messenger applications are ripe for decentralization.&nbsp;Episode notes:<a href="https://tlon.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tlon</a> is releasing a decentralized messenger app that gives you ownership of your data, built on <a href="https://urbit.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Urbit</a>, a complete, wholly encapsulated system that allows you to run a personal server in the cloud. Use the code STACK to skip the waitlist for the Tlon Messenger app.Connect with Galen on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/galenwolfepauly/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>.&nbsp;Shoutout to user <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/users/15427566/mkobuolys" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mkobuolys</a> for winning a Populist badge for their answer to <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/71636397/set-default-transition-for-go-router-in-flutter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Set default transition for go_router in Flutter</a>.<a href="https://stackoverflow.blog/2026/04/03/seizing-the-means-of-messenger-production/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TRANSCRIPT</a>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.

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