Is climate change a fringe and woke distraction in military planning that inhibits lethality? Or is it invaluable strategic context for this century&#39;s power projection? What kinds of missions will soldiers be asked to perform in a world that is getting hotter and more complex?Today&#39;s guest is Erin Sikorsky, Director of The Center for Climate and Security and author of the new book, Climate Change on the Battlefield: International Military Responses to the Climate Crisis.Though this show is not merely about warfighting and lethality. It&#39;s about what it means to have an apolitical military (if that term isn&#39;t too contestable). It&#39;s also about the military increasingly adapting its own facilities to climate change, and being tasked with many more disaster response missions than it has been previously. What does it mean to have an armed force that is spending more time fighting forest fires than preparing for amphibious assaults? 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Toll&#39;s Pacific War Trilogy deals with interwar Japan, especially Pacific Crucible: War at Sea in the Pacific, 1941-1942</a>. Listen also to the episode of the podcast I did with him here, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reversing-climate-change/id1321759767?i=1000592029223" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">"S3E34: The Environmental Impact of WW2 in the Pacific Theatre—w/ Ian W. Toll, author of The Pacific War Trilogy"</a>.<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oErYYBNCHh4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Dan Carlin&#39;s Hardcore History episode "Supernova in the East 1" deals with this extensively too.</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Quinctius_Cincinnatus" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_on_Warriors" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">I started reading Pete Hegseth&#39;s The War on Warriors: Behind the Betrayal of the Men Who Keep Us Free</a>, and would like to keep reading more criticism of the conflict between military preparedness and climate change.Listen in to the episode I did with Jeff Goodell where we discuss how the military thinks about climate change, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reversing-climate-change/id1321759767?i=1000624741003" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">"S3E51: The Heat Will Kill You First—w/ Jeff Goodell, author and contributing editor of Rolling Stone"</a><a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jeff-goodell/the-water-will-come/9780316260206/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Also, read his book The Water Will Come: Rising Seas, Sinking Cities, and the Remaking of the Civilized World</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Green_Fleet" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Great Green Fleet</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_White_Fleet" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Great White Fleet</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_preference" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Discounting/time preference</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Cobra problem</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Council" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Arctic Council</a>“Where some states have an army, the Prussian Army has a state.”― Voltaire

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