<div>Hey Fam! We’re so excited to share this conversation between Patrick, Josh Hallmark, host of the podcasts True Crime Bullshit and Unsafe Spaces, and Eric Carter-Landin, co-founder of AdvocacyCon and host of the podcast True Consequences.. 

In this conversation, Patrick, Josh, and Eric chat about why they podcast, how they go into it, the distinct perspectives of being gay men covering true crime, and they share the true crime podcasts they’ve loved over the past few years. This is a great opportunity to learn about podcasts you may not have heard of and, as Patrick says, to hear three queens flame out over the existence of an America’s Next Top model tell all podcast. It’s…sassy.

Check out Josh and Eric's Stuff:
<a href="https://www.bothand.fyi/truecrimebullshit">True Crime Bullshit:</a> True Crime Bullsh** is a serialized, investigative podcast that aims to identify the missing victims of serial killer Israel Keyes. Host Josh Hallmark has spent close to a decade combing through FBI files, analyzing interrogation videos, and working with experts in the field in this comprehensive and ground-breaking podcast.
<a href="https://www.bothand.fyi/unsafespaces">Unsafe Spaces:</a> Unsafe Spaces explores the murders that corrupt and exploit the places we’re meant to feel the safest; be it our churches, the gay community, or even our own homes. Season one investigates a complex string of serial murders that occurred within the Tampa gay community between 1998 and 2006. 
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4g37tYpDvgEsGQdJ5r7b8E">True Consequences:</a> Abq NM-based, award-winning true crime podcast, with advocacy-focused cases from the Southwestern state of New Mexico and the American Desert Southwest. 
<a href="https://www.advocacycon.com/">AdvocacyCon:</a> AdvocacyCon is a crime conference unlike any other. We bring together experts, non-profit organizations, families of the missing and murdered, and individuals passionate about advocating for justice. It aims to create a platform for education, connection, and collaboration in the fight for justice.



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