Nick Fuentes—an openly antisemitic, openly racist, openly sexist type who once was persona non grata in all but the unseemliest of online spaces—sat down with former Fox News star Tucker Carlson this week, setting off a debate between the “whoa whoa whoa, we’re not Nazis over here” branch of conservatives and the “well now, hold on a minute” wing.

Guest: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/author/ali-breland/">Ali Breland</a>, staff writer for The Atlantic and author of “<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2025/10/nick-fuentes-tucker-carlson-interview/684792/">The Firewall Against Nick Fuentes Is Crumbling</a>.” 
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