<h2>Podcast Movement 2026 Reflections + Lessons from Two People Who Run Podcast Events</h2>I just got back from Podcast Movement, and a lot of you have been asking whether it was still worth going now that it's under new ownership, in a new location, with a whole new format. Short answer: I'm definitely going back.In this episode I walk through what changed, what I loved, what I'd tweak, and what Tom Webster's data says about where podcasting really stands. Then I sit down with two guys who have actually done it, Marc Ronick of Empowered Podcasting and Dr. Brad Miller of Pod Indy, to get the behind-the-scenes story of running a podcast event. If you've ever had that little voice in your head saying "maybe I should start my own meetup or conference," this one is for you.<h2>Podcast Movement 2026: Was It Worth It?</h2>I went down the list, old Podcast Movement versus new.The hotel and the cost. It used to be at Gaylord hotels, which run $1,000 a night, where the burgers are $30 apiece and you never leave the building. This year was BYOH: bring your own hotel. I stayed two nights at a Holiday Inn Express for $400 a night. Still pricey, but nowhere near the Gaylord. Tickets were also much cheaper because they weren't paying for that hotel arrangement. Point to the new Podcast Movement.The venue. Picture a small theater (think House of Blues) that had a baby with a cruise ship: three floors, and you can look down at the main stage from the top. The rooms were narrower, so the back row was farther from the stage than I was used to. I also learned I need new glasses, because the giant screen was split in two and I couldn't read the slides. Sessions ran with silent-disco-style headphones: turn the dial to yellow or green and you hear that stage. The strange part is that people talk while someone is presenting a few feet away. It went against everything in my body, but it works, and I could network the whole time. My one suggestion: turn on the house lights during networking breaks. When you have 40 minutes to meet people and can't see who's in the room, it's a problem (unless it's Rob Greenley, who is six foot six inches).Networking and the parties. PodPage hosted a small meetup, and I walked over to the Buzzsprout meetup too. Both were places where you could actually talk, with no blaring music. I've talked to Dan Franks, who helps plan Podcast Movement, and he says they tell every sponsor that people want to talk, not have their ears bleed. Nice to see it work.New York City. I'll miss Dallas and Chicago, but it's supposedly staying in New York to make it easier for international attendees. The food was a win, and I never felt unsafe walking around Hell's Kitchen. I ate at Cubbies and at McGee's, which I didn't realize until halfway through is tied to How I Met Your Mother.A smarter schedule. Monday and Tuesday were geared toward the business and advertising side, and Thursday and Friday were for indie podcasters. That means indie folks can save on the hotel bill.The talks are going online. They're putting the presentations on the Podcast Movement YouTube channel for free. I'm looking forward to catching the ones I missed, including Lou Mangiello and Rob Walch's talk about video.<h2>What I Learned from Tom Webster</h2>If you only see one talk at a conference, make it Tom Webster's. Here's what stuck with me:<ul><li>Podcasting has gone flat. It used to grow at least 3 to 5% a year, occasionally 7%. This past year it barely moved. It's still growing, but by a very small amount.</li><li>Where people listen. In a survey of roughly 5,000 podcast consumers, the top three places were YouTube, Spotify, and Netflix. Not Apple, Pocket Casts, or Overcast.</li><li>Where I disagree. YouTube and Spotify are open to anyone, so I get why people call them podcasts. Netflix isn't open. They have to choose you, and there's no RSS feed. For me, a podcast is an RSS feed with audio or video in it.</li><li>Tom's Walmart analogy. Look at the CD section: a tiny collection of only the biggest hits (Back in Black, Rumors), nothing like a dedicated record store. His suggestion was that we should promote podcast-specific apps. My favorite is Pocket Casts: it plays audio and video, it has bookmarks (that's how I grab the clips I play on the show), and it has a web version.</li></ul> <h2>Podcast Standards Project: PodRoll Is Coming</h2>I sat in on my first Podcast Standards Project meeting. PodRoll, from the Podcasting 2.0 spec, is the modern version of a blogroll: a list of shows you personally recommend, living in your feed. Because feeds are public, anyone can see who's recommended most. That's human recommendations, not an algorithm you try to trick. Ask your media host if they support it (if not move ton one that does). The group is also looking at adding location, so you could find podcasts in your area.<h2>Video: Do You Have To?</h2>Some people insist you have to do video. Others said not only do you not have to, but the shows that added it didn't see much benefit beyond more work, cost, and time. In Apple's video spotlight, the shows featured were already big. I'm looking forward to Rob Walch's full presentation, because that's exactly the kind of "what's working and what's not" you go to a conference to learn.<h2>Small Events vs. Big Ones</h2>Podcast Movement had probably over 1,000 people. Empowered Podcasting had a little over 100 (about 150 this year), and Pod Indy will land somewhere between 50 and 100. Podfest usually draws a couple thousand. My favorite kind of event is single-track: everyone hears the same content, so when you step into the hallway you all have something to talk about.<h2>Interview: Running a Podcast Event with Marc Ronick and Dr. Brad Miller</h2>Why they started. Brad spent 43 years as a pastor and was a Christian concert promoter, so he'd seen the power of live events. After connecting with his local podcasting group in Indianapolis, he launched Pod Indy in 2023 (I keynoted the first one), and the fourth is coming up. Mark had been podcasting as long as I have, and didn't step into a conference until about five years ago. He felt a little out of place at the big ones, so he built a place where he'd feel comfortable.Small is a feature. Mark went in wanting Empowered Podcasting to become the next Podcast Movement. After the first one (2024, under 100 people) he noticed magic in a smaller, more intimate room, where people were learning from each other outside the sessions. He'd cap it around 200. Brad goes deep on one track, one day.The biggest surprises:<ul><li>You can't do it alone. Mark thought he could run it almost by himself. He carried the financial and emotional load, burned out after year two, and nearly canceled three times. Jason and Rich stepped in to save it, and he made them business partners.</li><li>Ticket sales come late. In Mark's second year, only about 20 tickets sold before the final month. Brad says two-thirds of tickets arrive in the last month. This year's sales were smoother for both, and both say credibility builds over time.</li><li>Bring enough lead time. Brad's first event had only three months, and he bit off more than he could chew. He also lost money using a business center, so he moved it to his church, where he has a studio, and kept it to one day with no hotel block.</li><li>Hotel blocks. If you don't fill the rooms, you pay anyway. Mark's went fine this year because speakers and a good share of attendees needed rooms.</li></ul> Money, honestly. Brad started by deciding what he could afford to lose (he did lose some the first year, and calls it an investment). Mark admits he wasn't careful with money in the first two years and took on some debt. Both credit their wives, Debbie and Amy, for keeping them grounded and for believing in the vision.Advice if you're thinking about it:<ul><li>Mark: Be okay with however many people show up. Start with a few who believe in your message. If they have a good experience, they come back and become your advocates.</li><li>Brad: Build transformative relationships one on one, then a few together. Have coffee or lunch with someone, or start online, before deciding whether to do a formal event.</li><li>Both: Virtual is great, but nothing replaces being around like-minded people in person.</li></ul> Choosing speakers. Mark's pet peeve is speaker submissions that are obviously written entirely by AI: "I love using AI, but that's a lazy move, and I don't know that I want a lazy speaker on one of my stages." (My favorite line on this: if you can't take the time to write it, produce it, or record it, why should I take the time to consume it?) Brad recruits speakers through personal relationships instead of an application process. Themes so far: podcasting as a business, AI, and this year taking your podcast (and your life) to the next level with keynote speaker Cliff Ravenscraft.<h2>Pod Indy: November 7, 2026</h2><ul><li>When and where: November 7, 2026, in Whiteland, Indiana (suburban Indianapolis), 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.</li><li>Tickets: $37 in person, $27 live stream.</li><li>Discount: use code SOP for $5 off.</li><li>On the lineup: Cliff Ravenscraft (keynote), John Lee Dumas (video), Craig on AI, and me.</li></ul> <h2>My Takeaway</h2>If you try to start with 1,000 people, you'll burn up. Start with what you have, where you are. John Lee Dumas's first meetup reportedly had about five people at an In-N-Out Burger, and he's now a legit millionaire. I even thought I could pull off something in Cleveland or Akron, then thought about all the work and decided: not now. Remember that "no" is often "not now."If you're thinking about starting a podcast, head to schoolofpodcasting.com and use the coupon code LISTENER when you sign up for a monthly, quarterly, or yearly subscription. It comes with a 30-day money-back guarantee. My website is courtesy of PodPage.<h2>Links & Resources Mentioned</h2><ul><li>School of Podcasting: <a href="https://schoolofpodcasting.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://schoolofpodcasting.com</a> (coupon code: LISTENER)</li><li>PodPage: <a href="https://podpage.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podpage.com</a></li><li>Empowered Podcasting Conference (Mark Ronick): <a href="https://empoweredpodcasting.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://empoweredpodcasting.com</a></li><li>Ironic Media (Mark Ronick): <a href="https://ironicmedia.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ironicmedia.com</a></li><li>Pod Indy (Dr. Brad Miller): <a href="https://podindy.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podindy.com</a> (coupon code: SOP)</li><li>Podcast Movement: <a href="https://podcastmovement.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcastmovement.com</a></li><li>Pocket Casts: <a href="https://pocketcasts.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pocketcasts.com</a></li><li>Podcast Standards Project (Pod Roll): <a href="https://podcaststandards.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcaststandards.org</a></li></ul> Mentioned in this episode:Live AppearancesI love to meet people when I'm on the road. 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