Joining the pod today are Rob Lee of FPRI, Shashank Joshi of the Economist, and Tony Stark of the Breaking Beijing substack.
We discuss…
<ul>
 <li>Whether Ukraine represents a revolution in military affairs and what lessons the war holds for other theaters</li>
 <li>Why roughly 80% of casualties in Ukraine are caused by UAVs, and the symbiotic relationship between artillery and drones,</li>
 <li>The limits of FPVs and UAVs, tactics to counter UAV attacks, and the role of unmanned ground vehicles,</li>
 <li>Institutional friction within the Ukrainian forces,</li>
 <li>How Chinese components and commercial drones from DJI are shaping the battlefield.</li>
 <li>Drone incidents over Europe, burden sharing, and the US policy climate.</li>
</ul>
Outro music:  Leon Bridges and Khruangbin - Texas Sun, a song that made it onto a 2022 playlist a reporter made of songs they heard on the front in Ukraine (<a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/72paG2c3VqKblZsZlsCBOx?si=ace9197c40c6440f">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/72paG2c3VqKblZsZlsCBOx?si=ace9197c40c6440f</a>) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

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