Hard work is a virtue… until it becomes a trap.In this episode, we explore how Fives relate to hard work, motivation, and the stories we’ve inherited about what effort should look like. We unpack our personal histories (lazy labels, blue-collar expectations, engineering hacks, and chronic fatigue) and how all of that shaped our relationship to discipline and purpose.We also dive deep into the myth of "working smarter not harder,” the allure of flow state, and the surprising ways hard work can become a source of love, not just labor.IN THIS EPISODE:• Strategic Laziness — How Fives use systems, automation, and over-engineering to avoid work… and why that’s not always a bad thing. • Hard Work as Avoidance — Why we sidestep tasks that feel like a grind, and how that resistance often masks deeper fears. • The Flow State Trap — How chasing peak performance can become its own form of procrastination. • Redefining Discipline — Moving from obligation to alignment, and why discipline matters even when inspiration doesn't show up. • Motivation Through Meaning — How caring for others (and ourselves) gives effort a new purpose, from parenting to partnership to podcasting. • The Work of Love — What diapers, depression, and doing the laundry taught us about what love actually is. • From Avoidance to Integration — How doing the hard emotional work helped us stop running and start liking ourselves.LINKS & RESOURCES:📩 Join the weekly newsletter: <a href='https://enneagramfive.com/newsletter'>enneagramfive.com/newsletter</a> 💬 Join the community: <a href='https://enneagramfive.com/community'>enneagramfive.com/community</a> 🗒️ Full transcript and show notes: <a href='https://enneagramfive.com/55'>enneagramfive.com/55</a> 📚 Books mentioned: • The War of Art by Steven Pressfield • The Creative Way by Seth HainesJOIN THE CONVERSATION:📢 What’s your relationship to hard work as a Five?  Do you avoid it? Chase flow state? Redefine it?  Share your story with us <a href='https://enneagramfive.com/community'>in the community</a>!The Newsletter Built for Fives🔹 Get weekly insights tailored for your overactive mind.🔹 Practical strategies to stop overthinking and start engaging.🔹 Growth, connection, and energy management—without the fluff.👉 Sign up free at <a href="https://enneagramfive.com/newsletter?utm_content=episode_description">enneagramfive.com/newsletter</a>.*** JOIN THE FULLY FIVE ACCELERATOR (FFA): Break free from observer mode with a proven growth framework and the weekly support of people who truly understand how your Five brain works. 🚀 <a href='https://enneagramfive.com/ffa'>​See if you're ready for FFA</a> *** RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE: ➡️ <a href='https://episodes.fm/1565234394/episode/QnV6enNwcm91dC0xMTM5MDcyNg'>#27: Subtypes</a> *** CONNECT: 📷 <a href='https://www.instagram.com/enneagram.five/'>Connect on Instagram</a> 🧵 <a href='https://www.threads.net/@enneagram.five'>Connect on Threads</a> 💼 <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/josiahgoff/'>Connect on LinkedIn</a> 📹 <a href='https://www.youtube.com/@enneagramfive'>Subscribe on YouTube</a> *** SAY THANKS: 💜 <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/enneagram-five/id1565234394'>Leave a review on Apple Podcasts</a> 🟢 <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/5lqsNfQBt63YdOW9Ft4Nhz'>Leave a rating on Spotify</a>

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