Special Thanks to USA Facts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7_1Mqhmf4Y&t=2495sWelcome back to Impact Theory. I’m Tom Bilyeu, and today I’m giving you my reaction to a high-stakes debate that couldn’t be more relevant right now. Moderated by Steve Ballmer and Jeff from PBS, the conversation brings together Ben Shapiro and Scott Galloway—two powerhouse thinkers with starkly different visions for America’s future.In this episode, you’ll get my take on their heated exchange over the government’s role in the American Dream. Are we racing toward bankruptcy because our government is doing too much, or are there places where it just isn’t doing enough? Ben draws a hard line on runaway spending, entitlement programs, and the dangers of federal overreach, while Scott makes the case for rethinking tax codes, investing in education, and finding smarter ways to support those in need.I’ll break down the key moments, highlight the most surprising and controversial arguments, and share where I think the conversation went deepest—or missed the mark. If you’re hungry for a real, data-driven look at the future of our economy and the social contract underpinning it, you’re in the right place. Let’s dive in.Tailor Brands: Check out Tailor Brands to launch your business starting at $0 + state fees: <a href="https://bit.ly/TailorBrandsSept" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/TailorBrandsSept</a>Quince: Free shipping and 365-day returns at <a href="https://quince.com/impactpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://quince.com/impactpod</a>Ketone IQ: Visit <a href="https://ketone.com/IMPACT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ketone.com/IMPACT</a> for 30% OFF your subscription order PLUS receive a free gift with your second shipment—or find Ketone-IQ at CVS stores nationwide and get $5 off your first 6-pack for a limited time!Perplexity: Start your free trial of Perplexity Computer today at <a href="http://pplx.ai/impact" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://PPLX.ai/impact</a> andexperience the next phase of AI. #ad makeupHeyGen: Create your first three AI videos for free at <a href="https://heygen.com/impact" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://heygen.com/impact</a>.Incogni: Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code IMPACT at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: <a href="https://incogni.com/impact" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://incogni.com/impact</a>&nbsp;Pipedrive: Get more leads and grow your business. Go to <a href="https://www.pipedrive.com/impact" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.pipedrive.com/impact</a> and get started with a 30-day free trial.Butcherbox: Go to <a href="https://butcherbox.com/IMPACT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ButcherBox.com/IMPACT</a> to get $20 off your first box, plus your choice of free ribeye, new york strip, or filet mignon in every box for a year — with free shipping always.What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here:Want my help starting a business?<a href="https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Join me here inside Zero To Founder</a>Sign up for my AI Masterclass:&nbsp; <a href="https://tombilyeu.com/ai-masterclass?utm_campaign=Live%20Masterclass&utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=evergreen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AI Masterclass</a>Follow Me:Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/</a>Tik Tok:<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en</a>Twitter:<a href="https://twitter.com/tombilyeu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://twitter.com/tombilyeu</a>YouTube:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu</a>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.

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