Damien Tanner (founder of Pusher, now building Layercode) is back for a reunion 17 years in the making. Damien officially returns to The Changelog to discuss the seismic shift happening in software development. From the first sponsor of the podcast to frontline builder in the AI agent era, Damien shares his insights on why SaaS is dying, why code review is a bottleneck (and non-existent for some), and how small teams can now build giant things.
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</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Damien Tanner &ndash; <a href="https://dc.tanner.me" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/dctanner" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dctanner" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://x.com/dctanner" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>Show Notes:<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.layercode.com">Layercode</a></li>
<li><a href="https://pusher.com">Pusher</a></li>
<li><a href="https://luma.com/calendar/cal-npDMhGfssuQj9ZE">AI Engineer London Meetup</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFKCzGlAU6Q">How Claude Code Works (Jared Zoneraich, PromptLayer)</a></li>
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