Today we’re talking about the very real possibility that Google might be broken up by the United States government. And to do that, I’m talking to Jonathan Kanter, the former assistant attorney general for antitrust under the Biden administration. Kanter left the DOJ after Trump was elected, but he was the architect of the major antitrust cases the Trump administration continues to pursue against Google. That means he’s much more free to share his thoughts on what it took to build and win both of these cases and what should happen next.Links: <ul>
<li>Google loses ad tech monopoly case | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/650665/google-loses-ad-tech-antitrust-monopoly-lawsuit">Verge</a>
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<li>Google is in more danger than ever of being broken up | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/652170/google-search-ad-tech-remedies-antitrust-chrome-breakup">Verge</a>
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<li>OpenAI tells judge it would buy Chrome from Google |<a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/653882/openai-chrome-google-us-judge"> Verge</a>
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<li>The high stakes of Google’s monopoly trial | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/652708/google-search-antitrust-remedies-trial-opening">Verge</a>
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<li>DOJ says Google must sell Chrome to crack open search monopoly | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/20/24300617/doj-google-search-antitrust-chrome-breakup">Verge</a>
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<li>Google makes history with rapid-fire antitrust losses | <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/18/technology/google-antitrust-losses-history.html">NYT</a>
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<li>Read the antitrust ruling against Google | <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/04/17/technology/google-ads-antitrust-ruling.html">NYT</a>
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<li>Google ad monopoly ruling's surprise winner: OpenAI | <a href="https://www.axios.com/2025/04/18/google-monopoly-openai-antitrust-platforms">Axios</a>
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<li>DOJ antitrust chief is ‘overjoyed’ after Google monopoly verdict | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/24215684/doj-jonathan-kanter-antitrust-google-monopoly-verdict-win-decoder-podcast-interview">Decoder</a>
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<li>DOJ’s Kanter says the antitrust fight against Big Tech is just beginning | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/24067873/jonathan-kanter-doj-antitrust-google-policy-monopoly-big-tech">Decoder</a>
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</ul>Credits:Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

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