How do we ever know what is enough – or feel like enough – in a world that pushes us to incessantly perform, perfect, collect, and earn?
 The extraordinary duo Suleika Jaouad and Jon Batiste are here for one of the richest conversations we’ve had about art, love, ambition, spirituality, and what it takes to remain ourselves. 
Together, we explore: 
- The “beast” we all carry: fear, perfectionism, control, or ambition—and how facing it is the only way out; 
- How we can all begin to alchemize our pain into creativity; and 
- How to hold onto the integrity of art, beauty, and love in a world that’s always searching for “more.” 
This conversation will help you take a deep breath and finally feel like it’s all enough – including you.  . 
And check out our prior conversations we had with Suleika, the brilliant author of The Book of Alchemy:
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-stay-human-with-suleika-jaouad/id1564530722?i=1000712524640">How to Stay Human</a>; and
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-turn-a-mistake-into-magic-with-suleika-jaouad/id1564530722?i=1000656467487">How to Turn a Mistake into Magic</a>. 

About Jon Batiste: 
Jon Batiste is a seven-time Grammy and Academy Award–winning artist whose music moves between jazz, soul, classical, and pop.  His ninth studio album, Big Money, was released on August 22nd, and is supported by a national headlining tour with more than 30 stops. Audiences also know Jon from his Oscar-winning score for his chart-topping album Beethoven Blues and the acclaimed documentary American Symphony, which celebrates his artistry, resilience, and love with his wife Suleika at the height of his creative powers. 

About Suleika Jaouad: Suleika Jaouad is the author of the New York Times bestselling memoirs The Book of Alchemy and Between Two Kingdoms. She writes The Isolation Journals, the #1 Literature newsletter on Substack, and wrote the New York Times “Life, Interrupted” column. A three-time cancer survivor and visual artist, she appears with her husband Jon Batiste in the Oscar-nominated documentary American Symphony.

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