In a slightly unconventional episode, Sebastian and Márton talk to the founders of Skip, an iOS-to-Android, Swift-to-Kotlin transpiler solution. Marc and Abe have a background working on both Apple platforms and the JVM, and their latest project is a bridge across these two ecosystems.
<ul>
<li><a href="https://skip.tools/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Skip</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/skiptools" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Skip.tools on GitHub</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJm0zBej0z0" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Contributing to SkipUI webinar</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/Kotlin/kdoctor" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">kdoctor</a></li>
</ul>
Hosts:
<ul>
<li>Sebastian Aigner
<ul>
<li><a href="https://sebi.io/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Website</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/sebi.io" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Márton Braun
<ul>
<li><a href="https://zsmb.co" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Website</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/zsmb.co" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bluesky</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
Guests:
<ul>
<li>Abe White
<ul>
<li><a href="https://x.com/aabewhite" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mas.to/@aabewhite" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Marc Prud'hommeaux
<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/marcprux" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
(0:00) Weather (2:02) Introductions (3:10) <a href="https://skip.tools/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠Elevator pitch⁠ </a>(3:45) The initial idea(6:14) Pivot around the server-side (8:35) Skip(.tools) (8:56) The target audience (9:58) What about Android devs? (12:11) The current state (14:57) Pricing and components (16:43) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJm0zBej0z0" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠Contributing to SkipUI⁠ </a>(18:55) Reimplementing everything (23:07) <a href="https://github.com/skiptools" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠The Skip stack⁠ </a>(26:17) Wrapping JVM types (28:27) Writing Kotlin in Swift?! (29:56) Tooling support (32:02) There’s a Gradle project! (34:39) iOS API coverage (38:24) Platform differences (40:10) Data storage (44:31) Building on JVM libraries (46:42) JSON problems (48:00) Testing the Skip stack (51:42) SwiftUI to Compose (58:21) IDE experiences (1:03:35) Conclusion 


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