In this conversation, the host Chris Glanden engages withguests Charlie Northrup and Keenan Hale to discuss advancements in AI, particularly focusing on large language models and their limitations. They explore the concept of Delta K, which refers to the transformation of knowledge, and how it relates to the predictive capabilities of AI. Thediscussion also delves into thin calculus and the category theory of things, emphasizing the need for an external truth to build sound mathematical systems. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the concepts of agentic calculusand Delta K, exploring their implications for artificial general intelligence (AGI) and the future of the economy. They discuss the observer-dependent nature of reality and how different perspectives can lead to varied interpretations ofthe same phenomena. The conversation also touches on the potential of the agentic economy to revolutionize ownership and economic dynamics, as well as the philosophical implications of waveform collapse in quantum mechanics.Overall, the discussion highlights the need for a new understanding of cognitive processing and the role of agents in shaping future interactions and economies. TIMESTAMPS:00:00 - Introduction to the Guests and Their Expertise02:16 - Recent Developments in AI and Technology04:50 - Understanding Large Language Models10:53 - Delta K and Its Limitations16:24 - Thin Calculus and the Category Theory of Things19:19 - Understanding Agentic Calculus22:27 - Delta K and Its Implications for AGI28:59 - Cognitive Processing and States of Being36:09 - The Agentic Economy: A New Paradigm40:25 - Waveform Collapse and Delta K43:20 The Future of Agentic Interactions SYMLINKS:[LinkedIn - Charlie Northrup] - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlie-northrup-1b73b051" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlie-northrup-1b73b051</a>Charlie Northrup is a technology innovator at Neewer Sciences, contributing pioneering research in agentic AI systems, thing calculus, and distributed digital ecosystems. He shares updates and insights about his work on LinkedIn.[LinkedIn - Keenan Hale] - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/keenandewayne/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/keenandewayne/</a>Keenan Hale is recognized for his interdisciplinary contributions bridging theoretical mathematics and cryptographic systems. He connects with others inthe AI and cryptography communities through LinkedIn and shares research updates and discussions.[LinkedIn - Mike Elkins] - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/elkinsmike/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/elkinsmike/</a>Mike Elkins is the Chief Human and Information Security Officer at Banffist, actively involved in discussions about cybersecurity, digital transformation, and AI-driven enterprise operations. He also speaks at major conferences like BlackHat, RSA, and SecureWorld.

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