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Andy is joined by Pavel to discuss claims of a UFO arms race, US–China technological competition and the questions surrounding mysterious drone incursions.We unpack Eric Weinstein’s comments on Diary of a CEO, revisit the fallout from David Grusch’s Rogan appearance and examine excerpts from Jay Stratton’s Out of the Shadows, including reported military UAP encounters and a warning about investigating the legacy programme.Plus, listener questions on reverse engineering, alleged alien abductions and what would genuinely move the disclosure conversation forward.Recorded live on 12 October, ahead of Stratton’s book release.Find your forever cookware @hexclad and get 15% off - <a href="https://hexclad.co.uk/ThatUFO">https://hexclad.co.uk/ThatUFO</a> Offer excludes bundles and other items already on sale. #hexcladpartner🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join</a>🛸 Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast">https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast</a>🛸 Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397">https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397</a>🛸 Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ">https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ</a>🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: <a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast">https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast</a>📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: <a href="http://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast">YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast</a>Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: <a href="https://linktr.ee/ufouapam">https://linktr.ee/ufouapam</a>Official Website: <a href="http://ThatUFOPodcast.com">ThatUFOPodcast.com</a>👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy</div>

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