"A true leader recognizes defeat as an educational moment."

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The voice of Tony Tollinger is Joey Rizzolo, <a href="http://joeyrizzolo.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">joeyrizzolo.com</a>

Written by Jeffrey Cranor and Janina Matthewson.

Music: Mary Epworth, <a href="http://maryepworth.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">maryepworth.com</a>

Director: Janina Matthewson

Producer: Jeffrey Cranor

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