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According to a recent <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-war-opinion-poll-2026-04-12/" rel="noopener noreferrer">CBS / YouGov poll</a>, 41% of Americans think that the war with Iran is going well, while 59% believe it is going badly. 
Can a war be won when the country fighting it doesn’t agree on whether it’s going well?
As the U.S. moves to blockade the Strait of Hormuz following failed negotiations, the debate is no longer just about battlefield gains, it’s about strategy, legitimacy, and what success really means. Dan Senor brings together former U.S. Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro and FDD CEO Mark Dubowitz for a good-faith debate on where the war stands and where it should go next. From military progress to political will, and from alliance dynamics to endgame scenarios, this conversation unpacks the fault lines shaping the American debate.
In this episode:
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 <li>Where do things stand after the failed U.S–Iran talks and the Hormuz blockade?</li>
 <li>How Dan and Mark define whether the war is “going well”</li>
 <li>What the U.S. and Israel have actually achieved militarily</li>
 <li>Can the war be won if the Iranian regime remains intact</li>
 <li>What economic, political, and human costs should Americans expect from this war?</li>
 <li>How is the war affecting U.S. alliances and global standing?</li>
 <li>Is the best path forward to escalate, contain, or shift strategy?</li>
 <li>What happens if the war ends before achieving its core objectives?</li>
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