The great primatologist and humanitarian, Jane Goodall, died on October 1, 2025, at the age of 91. It is a joy and a comfort to revisit our last broadcast of her 2020 conversation with Krista.  Jane Goodall began her epic work studying chimpanzees in the Gombe forest without even a college degree. The science she proceeded to do recalled modern western science to the fact that we are a part of nature, not separate from it. She spent the last decades of her life on the road, often with the young, tending to human fear and misunderstanding. In this beautiful conversation from pandemic lockdown, she shared the moral and spiritual wisdom that emerged in her extraordinary life — and the hope that, to the end, sustained her.Jane Goodall was the founder of the <a href="https://www.janegoodall.org/">Jane Goodall Institute</a> and its youth program, <a href="https://www.rootsandshoots.org/">Roots & Shoots</a>. She has been the subject of many films and documentaries, including “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ST6pqfCTy0">Jane Goodall: The Hope.</a>” Her many books include <a href="https://bookshop.org/books/in-the-shadow-of-man/9780547334165">In the Shadow of Man</a>, <a href="https://bookshop.org/books/reason-for-hope-revised/9780446676137">Reason for Hope: A Spiritual Journey</a>, and most recently, <a href="https://bookshop.org/books/the-book-of-hope-a-survival-guide-for-trying-times/9781250784094">The Book of Hope: A Survival Guide for Trying Times</a>. <a href="https://onbeing.org/programs/jane-goodall-what-it-means-to-be-human/#transcript">Find the transcript</a> for this show at onbeing.org.This show originally aired in August, 2020. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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