DEI is facing unprecedented legal and cultural pushback. Kenji Yoshino and David Glasgow, founders of NYU Law's Meltzer Center, argue it's time for a strategic shift: swap the 'E' in DEI for Equality. They join Mike to discuss their new book, How Equality Wins, explaining why mandatory diversity statements often lead to "preference falsification," the importance of supporting dissent, and why the movement must expand its tent to include the working class by simply going "where the pain is." Plus, we're awaiting Chief Justice's Facial expressions during the State of the Union. And in the spiel, why your daily anxiety has become the ultimate consumer product. Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠<a href="mailto:thegist@mikepesca.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" aria-haspopup= "menu">thegist@mikepesca.com</a> For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at <a href="https://www.mikepesca.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">https://www.mikepesca.com/</a> ⁠For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/</a> For Mike's daily takes on Substack, subscribe to The Gist List <a href="https://mikepesca.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://mikepesca.substack.com/</a> Follow us on Social Media:⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g" target= "_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g</a>⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pescagist/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">https://www.instagram.com/pescagist/</a> X <a href="https://x.com/pescami" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/pescami</a> TikTok <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pescagist" target= "_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">https://www.tiktok.com/@pescagist</a> To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠<a href= "mailto:ad-sales@libsyn.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer" aria-haspopup= "menu">ad-sales@libsyn.com</a>⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠<a href= "https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist</a>

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