In this episode, Vance Crowe sits down with author Devon Erickson to explore why he calls himself a compulsive explainer and how he sees the role of an intellectual: not to end debates, but to start them with powerful metaphors and fresh lenses. They dive deep into empathy as a writer’s core skill—simultaneously inhabiting a character’s inner world and anticipating the reader’s experience—and how that practice shapes Devon’s science-fiction novel, Theft of Fire. From first-person perspective and memory palaces to the mechanics of metaphor in thought, they wander into bigger terrain: how online discourse reveals public preoccupations, why villains must believe they’re right, and what it takes to write convincingly across gender and worldview.Their conversation also ranges into contested civic ground: the difference between empathy and sympathy, the dynamics of thug mentality and civilized restraint, the risks of escalating political tribalism, and the notion of “soft off-ramps” in American politics. They talk about immigration enforcement as theater versus necessity, institutional capture, and the appeal of centralized control to academics. Then they zoom back to the personal: metabolic health and processed food, the economic pressures on families, inflation as time theft, Bitcoin as an intergenerational lifeboat, and why some boomers feel out of touch with younger realities. They close with Devon’s passion project—the cinematic, full-cast audiobook of Theft of Fire—and the promise of classic sci-fi spirit with modern tech rigor.Legacy Interviews - A service that records individuals and couples telling their life stories so that future generations can know their family history. <a href="https://www.legacyinterviews.com/experience" target="_blank" >https://www.legacyinterviews.com/experience</a>River.com - Invest in Bitcoin with Confidence <a href="https://river.com/signup?r=OAB5SKTP" target="_blank" >https://river.com/signup?r=OAB5SKTP</a>to support the show and buy Bitcoin use the link to our show sponsor River.com <a href="https://river.com/invite?r=OAB5SKTP" target="_blank">https://river.com/invite?r=OAB5SKTP</a>(00:00:04) Opening: Sharing insights vs. repeating talking points(00:03:11) Host intro: Meeting Devon Erickson and The Theft of Fire(00:06:12) Metaphor as the engine of thought and memory(00:14:44) Empathy as a writer’s core skill—villains, readers, and realism(00:19:59) Modeling minds: conversational load, perspective taking, and audiences(00:26:06) Writing across gender and identity—finding Miranda’s voice(00:29:08) Speculative craft: writing what does not exist(00:30:04) Online discourse: empathy without sympathy and confronting hostility(00:36:55) Self‑defense mindset: lines, intent, and preparedness(00:41:49) Civility, uncivil actors, and the ‘soft off‑ramp’ in politics(00:49:31) Purpose of a military and cultural standards debate(00:51:58) Media narratives, ICE, and dealing with the uncivilized(01:02:00) Marxism, envy, and institutions—power vs. merit(01:11:55) Inflation’s danger and policy priorities ahead(01:14:16) Immigration, budget crises, and administration choices(01:14:32) Foreign influence and defining America’s interests(01:18:14) Money tech: inflation, Bitcoin, and future‑proofing exchange(01:21:15) Order vs. chaos: El Salvador, gangs, and state response(01:37:07) Feminism, industrialized food, and metabolic syndrome(01:46:33) What causes the obesity wave? Processed food vs. lifestyle(01:51:22) Inflation, two‑income households, and policy timelines(01:57:25) Cats, granaries, and guarding civilization’s value(01:57:35) Generations: anti‑boomer sentiment and being out of touch(02:02:18) Time as money: assets, risk, and financial education(02:12:06) Economics in sci‑fi: Marcus, Miranda, and post‑government markets(02:18:00) Building a cinematic audiobook: casting, direction, perfectionism(02:25:01) Closing: Why Theft of Fire and where to find it

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