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Andy is joined by Jonathan Caplan KC, one of the UK’s leading criminal barristers and the author of Not for Disclosure: UFOs, The World’s Best-Kept Secret.Drawing on five decades of interest in the subject, Jonathan explains why he believes the UFO phenomenon is real, why governments have kept it hidden and why, in his view, the evidence could meet the criminal standard of proof beyond reasonable doubt.The conversation covers the alleged 1994 craft landing in Russia, Britain’s historic relationship with the United States on UFO matters, Five Eyes, Majestic 12, Rendlesham Forest, private defence contractors, intimidation of insiders and the limits of the current disclosure process. Jonathan also explains why he believes the phenomenon may involve several different forms of non-human intelligence, rather than a single extraterrestrial source.A wide-ranging discussion about evidence, secrecy, national security and what governments may still be withholding from the public.Get the book - <a href="https://amzn.eu/d/00p8uJdK">https://amzn.eu/d/00p8uJdK</a>🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join</a>🛸 Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast">https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast</a>🛸 Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397">https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397</a>🛸 Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ">https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ</a>🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: <a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast">https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast</a>📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: <a href="http://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast">YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast</a>Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: <a href="https://linktr.ee/ufouapam">https://linktr.ee/ufouapam</a>Official Website: <a href="http://ThatUFOPodcast.com">ThatUFOPodcast.com</a>👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy</div>

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