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<p>If you’ve ever wondered how to choose between Flutter and Kotlin Multiplatform—or what it’s like to use both in real-world production apps—this special double-length episode is your definitive guide. Google Developer Experts Roman Jaquez and Kevin Moore join us to unpack the realities of cross-platform mobile development. From cutting-edge healthcare apps to Bluetooth integrations and developer best practices, Roman and Kevin share deep insights, honest comparisons, and tips for mastering multi-platform dev in 2025.
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<h2>Show Notes</h2>
<p>Join Jenn and Dru for a deep dive into the world of cross-platform development with two expert guests: Roman Jaquez and Kevin Moore. From architecture to animations, this episode explores the strengths, trade-offs, and future of Flutter and Kotlin Multiplatform (KMP). The conversation also covers practical advice for testing, performance, state management, and how to future-proof your skills as a mobile developer.</p>
<p>Highlights from this episode:</p>
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<li>How Flutter and Kotlin Multiplatform (KMP) compare in real-world app development—including where each shines.</li>
<li>Roman’s journey bringing Flutter into a large healthcare organization and the productivity gains that followed.</li>
<li>Kevin’s experience building cross-platform apps with Flutter and integrating native Bluetooth code through plugins.</li>
<li>Best practices for managing app architecture, UI consistency, and platform-specific code in Flutter and KMP.</li>
<li>State management options like Provider, Riverpod, and Bloc—when to use them and what to watch out for.</li>
<li>Tools and techniques for performance optimization, testing, and debugging across platforms.</li>
<li>Roman and Kevin’s thoughts on the future of mobile development—from hot reload to AI-driven coding tools.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Mentioned in This Episode</h3>
<ul>
<li>Kevin&#8217;s New Book: <a href="https://www.kodeco.com/books/kotlin-multiplatform-by-tutorials">Kotlin Multiplatform by Tutorials</a> &#8211; A Book about Kotlin Multiplatform.</li>
<li>Kevin&#8217;s Book <a href="https://a.co/d/8bCT64c">Mastering Flutter: Learn to develop Flutter apps for iOS, Android, desktop and web</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://flutter.dev">Flutter</a> — Google&#8217;s UI toolkit for building natively compiled apps from a single codebase.</li>
<li><a href="https://kotlinlang.org/lp/multiplatform/">Kotlin Multiplatform</a> — JetBrains&#8217; solution for sharing code across mobile, web, and more.</li>
<li><a href="https://pub.dev/">pub.dev</a> — Find Flutter plugins and packages.</li>
<li><a href="https://rive.app/">Rive</a> — A powerful tool for designing and integrating interactive animations in Flutter apps.</li>
<li><a href="https://firebase.google.com/docs/test-lab">Firebase Test Lab</a> — Run automated tests across a range of devices in the cloud.</li>
<li><a href="https://fluttertap.com/" >FlutterTap Newsletter</a> &#8211; See all the latest news about Flutter and Dart.</li>
<li><a href="https://codewithandrea.com/">Code with Andrea Newsletter</a> &#8211; Learn Dart, Flutter and Firebase.</li>
<li><a href="https://widgettricks.substack.com/">Widget Tricks Newsletter &#8211; A Flutter newsletter to share tips and tricks.</a></li>
</ul>
<h2>Contact Kevin, Roman &#038; the Hosts</h2>
<ul>
<li>Find Kevin on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-d-moore/">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/kevindavmoore.bsky.social
">Bluesky</a> and <a href="https://x.com/kevindavmoore">X</a>.</li>
<li>Find Roman everywhere:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/roman-jaquez-8941a424/">LinkedIn</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/drcoderz">X</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/romanjaquez.bsky.social">BlueSky</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@romanjustcodes">YouTube</a></li>
</ul>
<li>Jenn on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenndotcodes/">LinkedIn</a></li>
<li>Dru on <a href="https://iosdev.space/@lordandrei" rel="me">Mastodon</a>.</li>
<li><a href="mailto:podcast@teamkodeco.com">Email the Podcast Team</a>.</li>
</ul>
<h2>Follow Kodeco</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/kodecodev/">Kodeco</a> on LinkedIn</li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/kodecodev">Kodeco</a> on X/Twitter</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/KodecoDevelopers">Kodeco</a> on Facebook</li>
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<h2>Where to Go From Here?</h2>
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