Today’s guests are General Motors CEO Mary Barra and new GM Chief Product Officer Sterling Anderson. There’s a lot of big news the company just announced, including a Google Gemini-powered AI assistant that's coming to new cars and an entirely new hardware and software platform coming to the Escalade IQ in 2028 alongside true Level 3 autonomous driving. 
So I asked Mary about all of that and how she's navigating the current moment, and her company's relationship with the Trump administration. I also got into the details on GM’s platform with Sterling, including its decision to ditch Apple CarPlay on its EVs and what all this looks like in the future as AI voice assistants and more capable autonomy come into the mix.
Read the <a href="https://www.theverge.com/podcast/803379/gm-ceo-mary-barra-sterling-anderson-cadillac-iq-ev-autonomy-interview">full transcript on The Verge</a>.  
Links: 
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 <li>GM says hands-free, eyes-off driving is coming to Escalade IQ | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/802452/gm-forward-ai-robot-level-3-autonomous">The Verge</a>
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 <li>GM takes a $1.6 billion hit on EVs | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/transportation/799089/gm-takes-a-1-6-billion-hit-on-evs">⁠The Verge</a>
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 <li>GM software boss on ditching CarPlay | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/24285581/gm-software-baris-cetinok-apple-carplay-android-auto-google-cars-evs-decoder-podcast">Decoder</a>
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 <li>Ford CEO on China, tariffs, and the quest for a $30,000 EV | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/podcast/784875/ford-ceo-jim-farley-interview-ev-cars-china-trump-tariffs-carplay">Decoder</a>
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 <li>The EV tax credit is gone — now the hard part begins | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/podcast/800190/ev-tax-credit-auto-industry-cars-trump-tesla-china">Decoder</a>
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 <li>GM blocks dealership from installing CarPlay retrofit kits in EVs | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/633791/gm-apple-carplay-retrofit-shut-down">The Verge</a>
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 <li>Everybody hates GM’s decision to kill Apple CarPlay | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/4/23669523/gm-apple-carplay-android-auto-ev-restrict-access">The Verge</a>
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 <li>GM hires ex-Tesla, Aurora exec as chief product officer | <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/12/gm-hires-ex-tesla-aurora-exec-sterling-anderson.html">CNBC</a>
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 <li>Cruise’s robotaxi service will shut down as GM pulls its funding | <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/12/10/24318259/gm-cruise-shutdown-robotaxi-super-cruise">The Verge</a>
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 <li>Newsom names GM’s Mary Barra as villain in fight with feds | <a href="https://cal.streetsblog.org/2025/09/25/newsom-names-gm-ceo-mary-barra-as-villain-in-fight-with-feds-over-air-quality">Streetlight CA</a>
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