In their new book, <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Abundance/Ezra-Klein/9781668023488">Abundance</a>, journalists Ezra Klein (The New York Times) and Derek Thompson offer a hopeful vision for what the future of the U.S. can look like. Ezra returns to the show to discuss how his &lsquo;agenda of abundance&rsquo; (7:00) is a response to the hollowing out of the middle class (15:00) and the dwindling housing market (20:00). Then, Klein explains how these regulatory inefficiencies have impacted California&rsquo;s high-speed rail project (30:00), what we can learn from international construction (35:00), and why it&rsquo;s so difficult to build in Blue states (40:00). On the back-half, we discuss the future of AI in the workforce (45:00), whether &ldquo;Abundance&rdquo; can serve as a prescriptive text for the Democratic Party (1:00), the hope he aims to engender in readers (1:10:00), and our path to meaningful progress in 2025 and beyond (1:15:00). Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at&nbsp;<a href="mailto:mail@talkeasypod.com">mail@talkeasypod.com</a>.See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.

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