The Trump administration called Alex Pretti, who was shot and killed by federal officers, a “domestic terrorist.” And then bystander footage flooded the internet. On this week’s On the Media, how the real-time verification of video evidence is transforming public discourse. Plus, what the anti-ICE protests in Minneapolis have in common with the Boston Massacre.[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with <a href="https://www.ms.now/author/brandy-zadrozny">Brandy Zadrozny</a>, senior enterprise reporter at MS Now, about the informal network of far-right content creators traveling to anti-ICE protests in Minneapolis, and why the right-wing narrative is losing power in the face of an outpouring of bystander footage. [17:45] Host Micah Loewinger talks with <a href="https://substack.com/@radleybalko">Radley Balko</a>, author of The Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America's Police Forces, about similarities between the conditions that led to the Boston Massacre in 1770 and what we’re seeing today in Minneapolis and other cities targeted by ICE operations today.[31:43] Brooke sits down with <a href="https://www.bellingcat.com/author/eliothiggins/">Eliot Higgins</a>, the founder of Bellingcat, to discuss his framework for the essential functions of democracy— verification, deliberation, and accountability—which have broken down into hollow performances or simulations in the United States today.  Further reading / watching:<ul><li><a href="https://www.ms.now/news/minneapolis-influencers-ice-resistance-terrorism-narrative">“In Minneapolis, far-right influencers frame ICE resistance as terrorism,”</a> by Brandy Zadrozny</li><li><a href="https://radleybalko.substack.com/p/two-cities-under-siege?r=cgi7&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true">“Two cities under siege,”</a> by Radley Balko</li><li><a href="https://demos.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/VDA_Epistemic-Security_paper_October.pdf">“Verification, Deliberation, Accountability: A new framework for tackling epistemic collapse and renewing democracy,”</a> by Eliot Higgins and Natalie Martin</li></ul>
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