Finally, some insights brand builders and performance marketers can agree on.We gathered CAOs in finance, food, jobs, and boots to share everything they’ve learned as they’ve scaled podcasting to enviable levels–and whether you’re brand or performance, you’ll benefit from their wealth of experienceOn The Media Roundtable, we have one of our favorite conversations from the 2025 CAO Summit. <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/conor-doyle-8416506/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Conor Doyle</a>&nbsp;(President,&nbsp;<a href="https://oxfordroad.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oxford Road</a>) moderated ”No More Maybes: Scaling Podcast Performance with Precision,” where he gathered some of the sharpest CAOs who have scaled podcasts and agreed to share their secrets.&nbsp;Conor sat down with:•&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gladwell-mwangi-the-great/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gladwell Mwangi</a>&nbsp;(Director of Paid Media,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whole Foods</a>)•&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kezia-koo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kezia Koo</a>&nbsp;(Former Sr. Director, Global Growth & Performance Marketing,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indeed.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Indeed</a>),•&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/megan-smith-0a09721a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Megan Smith</a>&nbsp;(Director, Media Strategy,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tecovas.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tecovas</a>), and•&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickfairbairn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nick Fairbairn</a>&nbsp;(Vice President, Growth Marketing,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chime.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chime</a>)These audio evangelists&nbsp;candidly shared how they grew podcasts with confidence and their hard-won lessons from the journey.They’re talking: Measurement Quality, Podcasts Play Nice, Thoughtful Success, and more. Let’s dig in.“ Every single time we ratchet up the quality of our measurement, it's telling us time and time again, that podcast is efficient, it's driving revenue and bringing customers in.”–&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kezia-koo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kezia Koo</a>&nbsp;(Former Sr. Director, Global Growth & Performance Marketing,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.indeed.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Indeed</a>)See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.

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