This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about whiskey on Mondays, parenting chaos, and Chuck’s hot-water disaster. They dive into open-source dependency drama, including the Stylus package getting flagged as malicious, and the TEA app’s massive data leak. They question the stability of NPM, the illusion of software licensing security, and the ethics of data deletion. They also explore how AI is transforming development workflows—sometimes usefully, sometimes hilariously wrong.In this episode:<ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li><li>(01:07) - Whiskey review & rating: Catoctin Creek Roundstone Rye Whiskey</li><li>(08:15) - Robbie’s domestic chaos & Chuck’s plumbing nightmare</li><li>(13:55) - The Stylus debacle and the fragility of NPM</li><li>(19:05) - Insurance headaches, contractor woes, and house stress</li><li>(25:16) - Mac Minis, podcast metrics, and behind-the-scenes</li><li>(29:09) - Europe drinks better than we do</li><li>(30:37) - Tea's data breach</li><li>(35:33) - Using AI for real-world dev problems (and plumbing fixes)</li><li>(43:01) - Your data is never really deleted</li><li>(46:23) - Why podcast metrics are kind of a scam</li><li>(47:44) - Big Sky Dev Con live episode</li><li>(49:28) - Chuck’s moving to Italy</li><li>(50:09) - Jedi Survivor, Destiny 2, and gaming on the road</li><li>(55:37) - Plugs</li></ul>Links<ul><li>Catoctin Creek Roundstone Rye Whiskey:&nbsp;<a href="https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/roundstone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/roundstone</a></li><li>Rittenhouse:&nbsp;<a href="http://heavenhilldistillery.com/rittenhouse-rye.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://heavenhilldistillery.com/rittenhouse-rye.php</a></li><li>Copper Fox Distillery:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.copperfoxdistillery.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.copperfoxdistillery.com</a></li><li>Dax:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/thdxr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/thdxr/</a></li><li>AWS:&nbsp;<a href="https://aws.amazon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aws.amazon.com/</a></li><li>HashiCorp:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hashicorp.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.hashicorp.com/</a></li><li>IBM:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ibm.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ibm.com/</a></li><li>Sagamore Spirit:&nbsp;<a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sagamorespirit.com/</a></li><li>Stylus:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus</a></li><li>npm 'accidentally' removes Stylus package, breaks builds and pipelines:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/npm-accidentally-removes-stylus-package-breaks-builds-and-pipelines/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/npm-accidentally-removes-stylus-package-breaks-builds-and-pipelines/</a></li><li>Tea:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.teaforwomen.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.teaforwomen.com/</a></li><li>Tea encouraged its users to spill. Then the app's data got leaked:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/08/02/nx-s1-5483886/tea-app-breach-hacked-whisper-networks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.npr.org/2025/08/02/nx-s1-5483886/tea-app-breach-hacked-whisper-networks</a></li><li>NPM:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npmjs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.npmjs.com/</a></li><li>Microsoft:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.microsoft.com/</a></li><li>CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/</a></li><li>JavaScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li><li>npm left-pad incident:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Npm_left-pad_incident" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Npm_left-pad_incident</a></li><li>FakerJS:&nbsp;<a href="https://fakerjs.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://fakerjs.dev/</a></li><li>David Cramer:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/zeeg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/zeeg</a></li><li>MIT:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mit.edu/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mit.edu</a></li><li>Granted insurance:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.grantinsurance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.grantinsurance.com/</a></li><li>7-Eleven:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.7-eleven.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.7-eleven.com/</a></li><li>Accenture:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.accenture.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.accenture.com/</a></li><li>Opera Mini:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.opera.com/mini" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.opera.com/mini</a></li><li>DHH:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/dhh/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/dhh/</a></li><li>Lex Fridman Podcast:&nbsp;<a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lexfridman.com/podcast/</a></li><li>Mac Mini:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/</a></li><li>Ember:&nbsp;<a href="https://emberjs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li>Big Sky Dev Con:&nbsp;<a href="https://bigskydevcon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bigskydevcon.com/</a></li><li>HTMX:&nbsp;<a href="https://htmx.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://htmx.org/</a></li><li>Adam Argyle:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/argyleink/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/argyleink/</a></li><li>Typecraft:&nbsp;<a href="https://typecraft.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://typecraft.dev/</a></li><li>iPhone:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.apple.com/iphone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com/iphone/</a></li><li>Firebase:&nbsp;<a href="https://firebase.google.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://firebase.google.com/</a></li><li>SQL:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mysql.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mysql.com/</a></li><li>Supabase:&nbsp;<a href="https://supabase.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://supabase.com/</a></li><li>Postgres:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.postgresql.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.postgresql.org/</a></li><li>Amazon:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/</a></li><li>Claude:&nbsp;<a href="https://claude.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li>Windsurf:&nbsp;<a href="https://windsurf.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://windsurf.ai/</a></li><li>TypeScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li>Vercel:&nbsp;<a href="https://vercel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://vercel.com/</a></li><li>Shepherd:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shepherdjs.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.shepherdjs.dev/</a></li><li>Cypress:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cypress.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cypress.io/</a></li><li>Playwright:&nbsp;<a href="https://playwright.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://playwright.dev/</a></li><li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://react.dev/</a></li><li>ART19:&nbsp;<a href="https://art19.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/</a></li><li>Malort:&nbsp;<a href="https://malort.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://malort.com/</a></li><li>Primeagen:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/ThePrimeagen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/ThePrimeagen</a></li><li>Ken Wheeler:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/ken_wheeler/</a></li><li>Jedi Survivor:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-survivor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-survivor</a></li><li>Jedi: Fallen Order:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order</a></li><li>Switch 2:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/</a></li><li>Destiny 2:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bungie.net/7/en/destiny" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.bungie.net/7/en/destiny</a></li><li>Indiana Jones and the Great Circle:&nbsp;<a href="https://indianajones.bethesda.net/en-US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://indianajones.bethesda.net/en-US</a></li><li>Tears of the Kingdom:&nbsp;<a href="https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/</a></li><li>FIFA:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fifa.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.fifa.com/</a></li><li>Breath of the Wild:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Breath_of_the_Wild" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Breath_of_the_Wild</a></li><li>Mario Kart World:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev</a></li><li>Donkey Kong:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_Kong" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_Kong</a></li><li>Ocarina of Time:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time</a></li><li>Anagram:&nbsp;<a href="https://danabra.mov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://danabra.mov/</a></li><li>George Clooney:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney</a></li><li>Elon Musk:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk</a></li></ul>Connect with Chuck and Robbie<ul><li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li></ul>Subscribe and stay in touch<ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li>Spotify:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li>Overcast:&nbsp;<a 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