Australian rooftops are resplendent with solar panels, but sustainability expert, Martin Brueckner, warns the popular notion that we're rapidly transitioning away from fossil fuels is deceptive. When you add Australia's fossil fuels exports to our domestic energy usage, he says, it's clear that "decarbonisation is yet to begin in earnest". Also, whatever happened to the dream that Australia could become a world leader in Green Hydrogen production?Guests<a href="https://grattan.edu.au/expert/alison-reeve/">Alison Reeve </a>— Energy and Climate change Program Director, Grattan Institute<a href="https://portfolio.jcu.edu.au/Researchers/madoc.sheehan">Adjunct Associate Professor Madoc Sheehan</a> — Researcher, James Cook University<a href="https://www.monash.edu/engineering/matthewhill">Professor Matthew Hill </a>— Head of Materials Science and Engineering, Monash University<a href="https://researchportal.murdoch.edu.au/esploro/profile/martin_brueckner/overview">Professor Martin Brueckner</a> — Pro Vice Chancellor Sustainability, Murdoch University

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