The late world-renowned primatologist Professor Frans de Waal (1948-2024) explores the nature of sex and gender among our cousins the apes, and how gender diversity is a common and pervasive potential on nature’s masculine-feminine continuum. In the quest to overcome human gender inequality, he suggests that our focus needs to be on the inequality.
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The late Frans B. M. de Waal, Ph.D., was a Dutch/American biologist and primatologist widely renowned for his work on the behavior and social intelligence of primates. C. H. Candler Professor Emeritus at Emory University, de Waal was elected to the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and was declared one of The Worlds’ 100 Most Influential People Today by Time magazine in 2007. The author of numerous highly influential books including <a href="https://www.press.jhu.edu/books/title/9383/chimpanzee-politics">Chimpanzee Politics</a>, <a href="https://www.emory.edu/LIVING_LINKS/OurInnerApe/book.html">Our Inner Ape</a>, and <a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324007104">Different: Gender Through the Eyes of a Primatologist</a>.

Executive Producer: Kenny Ausubel
Written by: Kenny Ausubel
Senior Producer and Station Relations: Stephanie Welch
Program Engineer and Music Supervisor: Emily Harris
Producer: Teo Grossman
Host and Consulting Producer: Neil Harvey
Production Assistance: Anna Rubanova
Resources
<a href="https://bioneers.org/different-gender-through-the-eyes-of-a-primatologist-frans-de-waal-ze0z2204/">Read an excerpt from Different: Gender Through the Eyes of a Primatologist</a>
<a href="https://www.emory.edu/LIVING_LINKS/index.shtml">Living Links Center for the Advanced Study of Ape and Human Evolution</a>
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