Elon Musk may be an extreme figure, but the authors of Muskism: A Guide for the Perplexed argue that the system he represents is much bigger than one man. Stephanie Flanders speaks with Ben Tarnoff and Quinn Slobodian about how Musk turned close ties with government into extraordinary power &mdash; and what his rise tells us about the changing relationship between Big Tech, the state and the global economy.See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.

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