Shannon is set to become an ordained minister—but she has always struggled with public speaking. Here’s the thing: She’s fine in front of large gatherings. In smaller gatherings, however, she mentally “freezes up” and rambles until she regains her train of thought. As Shannon prepares to start interacting with a congregation, Courtney Martin sits her down with former How To! host Charles Duhigg, author of <a href="https://www.charlesduhigg.com/supercommunicators">Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection.</a> Charles gives Shannon the tools to understand others and be understood herself.  If you liked this episode check out: <a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/how-to/2022/03/how-to-speak-in-front-of-others">How To Speak Up So Others Listen</a>Do you have a problem that needs solving? Send us a note at <a href="mailto:howto@slate.com">howto@slate.com</a> or leave us a voicemail at 646-495-4001 and we might have you on the show. Subscribe for free on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-with-charles-duhigg/id1469631127">Apple</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2sTpPBvpoGHZlDwgSKI7EZ?si=bD7WdR-vTjuCva13Wdn5qw">Spotify</a> or wherever you listen.How To’s executive producer is Derek John. Joel Meyer is our senior editor/producer. The show is produced by Rosemary Belson and Kevin Bendis. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now at <a href="http://www.slate.com/howtoplus">slate.com/howtoplus</a>. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

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