In this episode, Louis speaks with Nobel laureate and education activist Malala Yousafzai. Joining Louis at Spotify HQ, the pair discuss misrepresentations of Islam, the Taliban’s 'gender apartheid', and her views on the institution of marriage. Plus, Malala shares a traumatic drug experience at university that changed her outlook on life. 
  
Warnings: adult themes and some discussion points which could be upsetting. If you’ve been affected by the topics discussed in this episode, Spotify have a website for information and resources. Visit spotify.com/resources    

Links/Attachments: 
 
Book: Finding My Way, Malala Yousafzai (2025) 
<a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/finding-my-way/malala-yousafzai/9781399637770">https://www.waterstones.com/book/finding-my-way/malala-yousafzai/9781399637770</a>  
 
Book: I Am Malala, Malala Yousafzai (2013) 
<a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/i-am-malala/malala-yousafzai/christina-lamb/9781399608992">https://www.waterstones.com/book/i-am-malala/malala-yousafzai/christina-lamb/9781399608992</a>  
 
Class Dismissed (2009) - New York Times <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/asia/100000001835296/class-dismissed-malala-yousafzais-story.html">https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/asia/100000001835296/class-dismissed-malala-yousafzais-story.html</a>  
 
Article: Malala’s shooting  
<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pakistani-teen-girls-activist-malala-yousufzai-shot-on-school-bus-by-taliban-gunman/">https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pakistani-teen-girls-activist-malala-yousufzai-shot-on-school-bus-by-taliban-gunman/</a>  
 
Article: Charlie Kirk killed 
<a href="https://news.sky.com/story/what-we-know-about-how-charlie-kirk-was-killed-13428871">https://news.sky.com/story/what-we-know-about-how-charlie-kirk-was-killed-13428871</a>  
 
Article: Afghanistan's restrictions on women <a href="https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/08/1165622">https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/08/1165622</a>  
 
Article: Southport riots  
<a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99v90813j5o">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99v90813j5o</a>  
 
Article: Pakistan child marriage laws  
<a href="https://www.walkfree.org/news/2025/pakistan-takes-step-to-end-child-marriage-as-calls-grow-for-national-reform/">https://www.walkfree.org/news/2025/pakistan-takes-step-to-end-child-marriage-as-calls-grow-for-national-reform/</a>  
 
Malala Fund: 
<a href="https://malala.org/">https://malala.org/</a>  
 
Mukhtar Mai profile:  
<a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13163169">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13163169</a>  
 
Survey of worst countries for women:  
<a href="https://www.amnestyusa.org/blog/the-worlds-worst-places-to-be-a-woman/">https://www.amnestyusa.org/blog/the-worlds-worst-places-to-be-a-woman/</a>  
 
Credits: 
Producer: Millie Chu  
Assistant Producer: Maan al-Yasiri
Production Manager: Francesca Bassett  
Music: Miguel D’Oliveira  
Audio Mixer: Tom Guest 
Video Mixer: Scott Edwards  
Shownotes compiled by Elly Young 
Executive Producer: Arron Fellows  
   
A Mindhouse Production for Spotify  
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