Michelle Ockers is joined by Dr. Cathryn Lloyd, founder of Maverick Minds, to explore how L&D professionals can shift their thinking and support others to shift their thinking. Cathryn shares how her own experiences of personal and professional transformation led to her work in helping individuals and organisations think differently. They discuss why shifting thinking is crucial for L&D professionals who are responsible for supporting learning, change, and capability-building in their organisations. Cathryn introduces practical tools and insights from her book on storytelling and creativity. Hosted by <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelleockers/">Michelle Ockers</a>  Transcript and related resources: <a href= "https://learninguncut.global/podcast/elevate-40/"> https://learninguncut.global/podcast/elevate-40/</a>  Podcast information and more episodes: <a href= "https://learninguncut.global/podcast/"> https://learninguncut.global/podcast/</a>

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