This week, Max Read talks to the Times religion correspondent Elizabeth Dias, the tech reporter Erin Griffith and the opinion writer David Wallace-Wells about Anthropic’s private meetings with religious scholars on A.I. consciousness and how to make Claude “good,” its differences with the Vatican and the new belief systems taking shape in Silicon Valley.Panelists:<ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/elizabeth-dias" rel="noopener noreferrer">Elizabeth Dias</a>, national religion correspondent for The New York Times.</li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/erin-griffith" rel="noopener noreferrer">Erin Griffith</a>, a tech reporter for The New York Times.</li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/david-wallace-wells" rel="noopener noreferrer">David Wallace-Wells</a>, an opinion writer for The New York Times.</li></ul>Additional Reading:<ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/29/us/anthropic-claude-morals-ai.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">Religious Scholars Met With Anthropic. What They Heard Stunned Them.</a></li><li><a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/ai-researchers-quit-openai-anthropic.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=s1&utm_campaign=nym" rel="noopener noreferrer">What Would You Do If Your Employer Could Destroy the World? Exit interviews with defectors from OpenAI, Anthropic and DeepMind.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2026/10/openai-safety-team-resignation/688881/?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20261005&instance_id=183056&nl=dealbook&regi_id=72223601&segment_id=227553&user_id=392b642ef7259d9cd6d9d7d679bf59d8" rel="noopener noreferrer">I Quit OpenAI Because Its Culture Is Broken</a>&nbsp;</li></ul>We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hardfork" rel="noopener noreferrer">YouTube</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork" rel="noopener noreferrer">TikTok</a>.&nbsp;
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