For the final episode of this series, Louis travels to Manchester to sit down with Marina Abramovic, the self-proclaimed “grandmother of performance art”. Marina tells Louis the stories behind some of her most famous artworks, as well as the relationship between performance and pain, never feeling loved in her childhood, and being caught in the middle of an online conspiracy.    
 
Warnings: Strong language and adult themes.  
 
Links/Attachments: 
 
Balkan Erotic Epic, Marina Abramovic (2025) 
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2025/may/22/manchester-to-host-world-premiere-of-marina-abramovics-balkan-erotic-epic">https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2025/may/22/manchester-to-host-world-premiere-of-marina-abramovics-balkan-erotic-epic</a>  
 
The Artist is Present, Marina Abramovic (2010) 
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2073029/">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2073029/</a> 
 
Lips of Thomas, Marina Abramovic (1975) 
<a href="https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/5176">https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/5176</a> 
 
Rhythm 0, Marina Abramovic (1974) 
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTBkbseXfOQ&list=PL0bCt-VbCH4N3823Lj7uNAFLiYDjSnbTp&index=1">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTBkbseXfOQ&list=PL0bCt-VbCH4N3823Lj7uNAFLiYDjSnbTp&index=1</a> 
 
Cut Piece, Yoko Ono (1964) 
<a href="https://www.moma.org/audio/playlist/15/373">https://www.moma.org/audio/playlist/15/373</a>  
 
Cut Piece, Yoko Ono (2005): 
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/sep/16/arts.france">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/sep/16/arts.france</a>  
 
Bob Wilson’s Life and Death of Marina Abramovic, (2012) 
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2177497/">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2177497/</a>  
 
Book: When Marina Abramovic Dies, James Westcott (2014) 
<a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262526814/when-marina-abramovic-dies/">https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262526814/when-marina-abramovic-dies/</a>  
 
Light – Dark, Ulay & Marina Abramovic (1978) 
<a href="https://www.stedelijk.nl/en/collection/13991-ulay-light-dark">https://www.stedelijk.nl/en/collection/13991-ulay-light-dark</a>  
 
Seedbed, Vito Acconci (1972) 
<a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/266876">https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/266876</a>  
 
Seven Easy Pieces, Marina Abramovic (2005) 
<a href="http://pastexhibitions.guggenheim.org/abramovic/">http://pastexhibitions.guggenheim.org/abramovic/</a>  
 
The Great Wall Walk, Marina Abramovic (1988) 
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/apr/25/marina-abramovic-ulay-walk-the-great-wall-of-china">https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/apr/25/marina-abramovic-ulay-walk-the-great-wall-of-china</a>  
 
Book: Walk Through Walls: A Memoir, Marina Abramovic (2016) 
<a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/walk-through-walls/marina-abramovic/9780241974520">https://www.waterstones.com/book/walk-through-walls/marina-abramovic/9780241974520</a>  
 
Balkan Baroque, Marina Abramovic (1997) 
<a href="https://www.singulart.com/blog/en/2024/06/03/balkan-baroque-by-marina-abramovic/?srsltid=AfmBOopPyXzjOP800ERQMaHvbiNNps0oMBOCmOKjWOhdpNt6X6kEvu2k">https://www.singulart.com/blog/en/2024/06/03/balkan-baroque-by-marina-abramovic/?srsltid=AfmBOopPyXzjOP800ERQMaHvbiNNps0oMBOCmOKjWOhdpNt6X6kEvu2k</a>  
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQigTZuTmv0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQigTZuTmv0</a> 
 
BBC Maestro, Marina Abramovic: 
<a href="https://www.bbcmaestro.com/courses/marina-abramovic/the-art-of-being-present">https://www.bbcmaestro.com/courses/marina-abramovic/the-art-of-being-present</a> 
 
Article: ‘Marina Abramovic Just Wants Conspiracy Theorists to Let Her Be’, New York Times, 2020 
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/21/arts/design/marina-abramovic-satanist-conspiracy-theory.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/21/arts/design/marina-abramovic-satanist-conspiracy-theory.html</a>  
 
The Seven Deaths of Maria Callas (2022) 
<a href="https://www.harrisonparrott.com/news/2022-11-04/marina-abramovic-brings-the-seven-deaths-of-maria-callas-to-royal">https://www.harrisonparrott.com/news/2022-11-04/marina-abramovic-brings-the-seven-deaths-of-maria-callas-to-royal</a>  
 
The Truth Vs Alex Jones (2024) 
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/gb/show/the-truth-vs-alex-jones/umc.cmc.1azsv881ew8mcjozutufy51vf">https://tv.apple.com/gb/show/the-truth-vs-alex-jones/umc.cmc.1azsv881ew8mcjozutufy51vf</a>  
 
Credits: 
Producer: Millie Chu  
Assistant Producer: Maan al-Yasiri  
Production Manager: Francesca Bassett  
Music: Miguel D’Oliveira  
Audio Mixer: Tom Guest 
Video Mixer: Scott Edwards  
Shownotes compiled by Elly Young 
Executive Producer: Arron Fellows  
   
A Mindhouse Production for Spotify  
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