The Verge’s Victoria Song joins the show to talk about the most popular and most-bailed-on New Year’s Resolution of all: getting in shape. She tells us about the apps that help you work out more without being rude about it, the data you really need to care about in your fitness tracker, and much more. After that, we talk to Anna Valtonen, one of the curators and researchers behind the new Nokia Design Archive. She tells us about the concepts, presentations, and overall culture that made Nokia such an important company in the history of phones. Finally, we answer another question on the Vergecast Hotline about how audio works on your phone. It’s all still too complicated.Further reading:<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.joinladder.com/">Ladder</a></li>
<li><a href="https://forge7.net/fantasyhike/">Fantasy Hike</a></li>
<li><a href="https://about.stompers.com/">Stompers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://runkeeper.com/cms/">Runkeeper</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fitness22.com/">5K Runner</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/23/24204077/crowdstrike-windows-crash-exercise-apps-vergecast">Our interview with Adrian Hon about Zombies, Run</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nokiadesignarchive.aalto.fi/?node=A0001">The Nokia Design Archive</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nokiadesignarchive.aalto.fi/?node=A0020">Nokia’s “Morph” concept</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nokiadesignarchive.aalto.fi/?node=C0004">The Nokia Communicator</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nokiadesignarchive.aalto.fi/?node=C0034">The Nokia Moonraker smartwatch</a></li>
<li>From Apple: <a href="https://support.apple.com/guide/airpods/share-audio-on-iphone-or-ipad-dev3786f35c8/web">Share audio with AirPods and Beats headphones from iPhone or iPad</a>
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<li>Also from Apple: <a href="https://support.apple.com/guide/audio-midi-setup/play-audio-through-multiple-devices-at-once-ams7c093f372/mac">Play audio through multiple devices at once in Audio MIDI Setup on Mac</a>
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<li>From Samsung: <a href="https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS10003436/">Play music on two Bluetooth devices from your Galaxy phone</a>
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</ul>Email us at <a href="mailto:vergecast@theverge.com">vergecast@theverge.com</a> or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

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